Steven DraheimProject Manager - Human Resources/Quality Assurance Manager| Rolls Royce North AmericaCarmel, In, United States
Hello! I'm looking for some advice/feedback. I am currently running several projects under the Agile umbrella and I'm LOVING IT! I have considered coming out of pocket to strive for the ACP cert but I would love to hear some feedback from those who have achieved it. Benefits? Market advantages? Appreciate your intel on this :) Saving Changes...
Honestly, at this point, I'd think every PMP needs some kind of scrum / agile certification just to stay competitive. What that is - well, that depends on job / career goals, what you qualify to sit for etc.
I just got the CSM in December and I'll be taking the PSM I in the coming days just to cover my bases. Longer term, I'm heading toward the PMI-ACP unless something better comes out of the alliance that will add more value.
Considering how easy it is to get an entry level scrum certification - it's kind of a no brainer (even if you just take the PSM I exam and study on your own) Saving Changes...
Andrew SoswaTechnology leader| Leading global financial institutionElk Grove Village, Il, United States
CSM is a shame because of the recruiters. All recruiters think that this is the certification that guarantees a person to run multi-million Agile projects. At best it is good enough for a being an Agile team member. In truth, CSM trainers are pumping the numbers because of the recruiters.
I like PMI-ACP, not because it is PMI cert but because it is more inclusive and versatile than CSM or PSM.
My strong opinion that PMI still teaches it the wrong way and evaluates even worse, but you are here for the knowledge and not for the paper, right?
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Mar 04, 2020 9:21 AM
Steven Draheim
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This is great feedback Andrew. I'm focused on development and tools that sharpen leadership/deliverables. The CSM was light but the class I took recently did aid in aligning SCRUM strategy to project execution. The letters mean nothing to me but the application of framework was helpful. PMI-ACP is a goal to grow my education but it takes a long time to qualify.
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Steven DraheimProject Manager - Human Resources/Quality Assurance Manager| Rolls Royce North AmericaCarmel, In, United States
Mar 03, 2020 10:59 PM
Replying to Andrew Soswa
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CSM is a shame because of the recruiters. All recruiters think that this is the certification that guarantees a person to run multi-million Agile projects. At best it is good enough for a being an Agile team member. In truth, CSM trainers are pumping the numbers because of the recruiters.
I like PMI-ACP, not because it is PMI cert but because it is more inclusive and versatile than CSM or PSM.
My strong opinion that PMI still teaches it the wrong way and evaluates even worse, but you are here for the knowledge and not for the paper, right?
This is great feedback Andrew. I'm focused on development and tools that sharpen leadership/deliverables. The CSM was light but the class I took recently did aid in aligning SCRUM strategy to project execution. The letters mean nothing to me but the application of framework was helpful. PMI-ACP is a goal to grow my education but it takes a long time to qualify. Saving Changes...
Stéphane ParentSelf Employed / Semi-retired| Leader MakerPrince Edward Island, Canada
Having the PMP is a great way to help you qualify for the ACP. I took some self-paced Scrum courses through my previous employer's SkillSoft subscription. I can tell you that it's a good start. It is not, however, sufficient to take ACP. The ACP is much broader in agile scope and, surprisingly, deeper in specific areas. The ACP is very much situational questions, like PMP. Saving Changes...
I would say the PMP definitely helps to achieve the ACP qualification, but as Stephane said, the exam went deep into the Agile framework. Saving Changes...
