What do you think when you hear the word 'discipline'?
Thomas WalentaGlobal Project Economy ExpertHackenheim, Germany
Wikipedia defines
'Discipline is action or inaction that is regulated to be in accordance (or to achieve accord) with a particular system of governance.'
PMI acquired 'Disciplined Agile' and they define discipline as 'to do things that you know are good for you, things that usually require hard work and perseverance', adding several other descriptors and stating 7 principles of DA. Saving Changes...
While those in school might see discipline as a negative, for me it is a positive as a disciplined approach to our personal and professional lives will usually result in better outcomes.
Discipline does not imply rigid compliance - it simply means consistency in following a set of rules or guidelines, so tailoring one's approach to managing a project can still be disciplined if one goes about the tailoring process in a consistent manner.
When I hear the word discipline I reminisce Aristotle's words:
" Through discipline comes freedom"
I don't see discipline as being inflexible, but if we are consistent (thanks for the word I was looking for, Kiron) with our principles we will find this freedom even if we are flexible.
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Jan 22, 2020 11:00 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear John
Interesting your comment
Thanks for sharing
Still about
"Aristotle (384 BC-322 BC) said that" freedom is the ability to decide oneself for a given action or its omission ". Thus, freedom is the principle for choosing between possible alternatives, being realized as a decision and voluntary act. For Aristotle, action that is not coerced is free and voluntary "
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Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Dear Thomas
Interesting your question
Thanks for sharing
The discipline can be seen in multiple perspectives:
Self discipline:
- It is the discipline, that is, the order, the rule and the responsibility that a determined individual imposes itself, without the guidance or imposition of third parties.
From a social point of view, discipline still represents the good conduct of the individual, that is, the characteristic of the person who fulfills the existing orders in society
Discipline can still be related to the act of being constant, that is, dedicating oneself to fulfill a certain task to reach a final objective, for example.
Discipline is obedience to the set of rules and norms that are established by a certain group Saving Changes...
Thomas WalentaGlobal Project Economy ExpertHackenheim, Germany
Agree, Kiron, I also see it as positive.
Think it creates - as you say consistency - which means trust and predictability, for the disciplined it helps them to become integer…
It also helps becoming more efficient, because some behaviors are set and become automatic and quicker.
Yes, there is a risk with that, namely that we miss a sign not to be disciplined in a certain situation. Think about a driver driving disciplined on the right side of the street (not UK apparently) and to avoid a crash has deliberately change sides.
Read another definition: discipline is 'the will power that gives birth to self-control'. This establishes a link to Emotional Intelligence.
Joao, with that I interpret your quote that freedom comes from self-control (not to give way to all your emotions).
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2 replies by George Freeman and Joao Sarmento
Jan 22, 2020 12:43 PM
George Freeman
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Thomas,
My default context of “discipline” definitely relates to EI.
Discipline, in any form, requires knowledge of a subject area that has structure and boundaries. From that knowledge, we act in accordance-with those elements (i.e., structure and boundaries), or we act outside of them. With this being true, the question becomes this:
- When presented with the opportunity to act, do we interrogate said knowledge to make a decision, or do we respond by instinct and/or what we feel regarding the situation at hand?
Without EI/Mindfulness characteristics, one is more likely to respond without proper interrogation of their knowledge on the subject. So, yes, discipline (in many contexts) is linked to EI.
Jan 22, 2020 4:36 PM
Joao Sarmento
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To become a leader you first need to be a leader of yourself :)
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Thomas WalentaGlobal Project Economy ExpertHackenheim, Germany
Another question: if we have disciplined agile, what would be disciplined non-agile project management?
Each project is regulated, by its charter, the environmental factors, the plans committed, the way of working chosen, the team rules. Saving Changes...
Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Jan 22, 2020 9:56 AM
Replying to Joao Sarmento
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Hi Thomas,
When I hear the word discipline I reminisce Aristotle's words:
" Through discipline comes freedom"
I don't see discipline as being inflexible, but if we are consistent (thanks for the word I was looking for, Kiron) with our principles we will find this freedom even if we are flexible.
Dear John
Interesting your comment
Thanks for sharing
Still about
"Aristotle (384 BC-322 BC) said that" freedom is the ability to decide oneself for a given action or its omission ". Thus, freedom is the principle for choosing between possible alternatives, being realized as a decision and voluntary act. For Aristotle, action that is not coerced is free and voluntary " Saving Changes...
George FreemanThought Leader | Author | Architect| Florida, United States
Jan 22, 2020 10:55 AM
Replying to Thomas Walenta
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Agree, Kiron, I also see it as positive.
Think it creates - as you say consistency - which means trust and predictability, for the disciplined it helps them to become integer…
It also helps becoming more efficient, because some behaviors are set and become automatic and quicker.
Yes, there is a risk with that, namely that we miss a sign not to be disciplined in a certain situation. Think about a driver driving disciplined on the right side of the street (not UK apparently) and to avoid a crash has deliberately change sides.
Read another definition: discipline is 'the will power that gives birth to self-control'. This establishes a link to Emotional Intelligence.
Joao, with that I interpret your quote that freedom comes from self-control (not to give way to all your emotions).
Thomas,
My default context of “discipline” definitely relates to EI.
Discipline, in any form, requires knowledge of a subject area that has structure and boundaries. From that knowledge, we act in accordance-with those elements (i.e., structure and boundaries), or we act outside of them. With this being true, the question becomes this:
- When presented with the opportunity to act, do we interrogate said knowledge to make a decision, or do we respond by instinct and/or what we feel regarding the situation at hand?
Without EI/Mindfulness characteristics, one is more likely to respond without proper interrogation of their knowledge on the subject. So, yes, discipline (in many contexts) is linked to EI. Saving Changes...
Stéphane ParentSelf Employed / Semi-retired| Leader MakerPrince Edward Island, Canada
When I think of discipline, I think of disciples. We are all disciples applying standards of behaviour and performance in our daily and professional lives. Saving Changes...
Think it creates - as you say consistency - which means trust and predictability, for the disciplined it helps them to become integer…
It also helps becoming more efficient, because some behaviors are set and become automatic and quicker.
Yes, there is a risk with that, namely that we miss a sign not to be disciplined in a certain situation. Think about a driver driving disciplined on the right side of the street (not UK apparently) and to avoid a crash has deliberately change sides.
Read another definition: discipline is 'the will power that gives birth to self-control'. This establishes a link to Emotional Intelligence.
Joao, with that I interpret your quote that freedom comes from self-control (not to give way to all your emotions).
To become a leader you first need to be a leader of yourself :) Saving Changes...
