Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Jan 23, 2020 3:52 AM
Replying to Mushtaq Abdulrahimzai
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I agree with statement but I will add such guys have the most critical items in the list, and such items take time to achieve, during these periods for sure he will be free.
simply, such guys will not busy in small issues.
Dear Ahmad
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion
You wrote: "simply, such guys will not be busy in small issues"
How is this achieved?
Can we apply this concept to project planning? Saving Changes...
Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Jan 23, 2020 10:34 AM
Replying to Peter Rapin
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The problem I have with this is that being busy does not necessarily translate to getting things done or positive results.A person may be busy for all the wrong reasons: disorganized, martyr syndrome, micro-manager, perception only, unsatisfactory personal life, nothing else to do. When I identify the 'busy person' in my team I will dig a little deeper before assuming its a good thing and add on to the person's pile. I have the same response to 'less busy' persons - is it because they are lazy, have insufficient workload, are assigned below their ability or organized and efficient?
Key conclusion - don't manage a project based on proverbs.
Dear Peter
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion
This perspective is interesting: "A person may be busy for all the wrong reasons: disorganized, martyr syndrome, micro-manager, perception only, unsatisfactory personal life, nothing else to do."
Do you know the origin (who said it) of this thought?
How can we apply this concept to project planning?
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1 reply by Peter Rapin
Jan 24, 2020 10:22 AM
Peter Rapin
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Although one recognizes staff individualism in the planning stages you think in terms of positions rather than individuals - so many resources with certain experience and training over a set period of time: 1 contract coordinator, 1 senior engineer, 2 intermediate administrators, one costing expert, one scheduler, etc. During implementation you can the look at the specific abilities/talents, strengths and weaknesses of the individuals assigned. Define expectations, support and challenge the over-performers, motivate the others - basically do your management job.
Essentially I do not buy into the concept suggested by this thought, pre-conceived notion or proverb or, as a matter, any proverb or generality.
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Peter RapinSubject Matter Expect; Project Delivery| Independent ConsultantOntario, Canada
Jan 24, 2020 8:32 AM
Replying to Luis Branco
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Dear Peter
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion
This perspective is interesting: "A person may be busy for all the wrong reasons: disorganized, martyr syndrome, micro-manager, perception only, unsatisfactory personal life, nothing else to do."
Do you know the origin (who said it) of this thought?
How can we apply this concept to project planning?
Although one recognizes staff individualism in the planning stages you think in terms of positions rather than individuals - so many resources with certain experience and training over a set period of time: 1 contract coordinator, 1 senior engineer, 2 intermediate administrators, one costing expert, one scheduler, etc. During implementation you can the look at the specific abilities/talents, strengths and weaknesses of the individuals assigned. Define expectations, support and challenge the over-performers, motivate the others - basically do your management job.
Essentially I do not buy into the concept suggested by this thought, pre-conceived notion or proverb or, as a matter, any proverb or generality.
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Jan 24, 2020 10:36 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Peter
Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us
It was a person who said, "The busiest man has the most free time”
I had the opportunity to read an article about this reflection applied to the planning (critical path) of projects
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Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Jan 24, 2020 10:22 AM
Replying to Peter Rapin
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Although one recognizes staff individualism in the planning stages you think in terms of positions rather than individuals - so many resources with certain experience and training over a set period of time: 1 contract coordinator, 1 senior engineer, 2 intermediate administrators, one costing expert, one scheduler, etc. During implementation you can the look at the specific abilities/talents, strengths and weaknesses of the individuals assigned. Define expectations, support and challenge the over-performers, motivate the others - basically do your management job.
Essentially I do not buy into the concept suggested by this thought, pre-conceived notion or proverb or, as a matter, any proverb or generality.
Dear Peter
Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us
It was a person who said, "The busiest man has the most free time”
I had the opportunity to read an article about this reflection applied to the planning (critical path) of projects Saving Changes...
Mustafa AlMashhadiPM I| Schindler Olayan Elevator Ltd.Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
I believe this can be true if the busiest man be smart and create his world and tools, have supporting environment and management
The busiest man also need always to train a successor to take his place so he can easily get higher position or he can get leisure when he wants so..
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2 replies by Luis Branco and Peter Rapin
Jan 24, 2020 11:31 AM
Peter Rapin
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I would argue that the busiest (wo)man cannot train a successor and in fact cannot delegate any meaningful work which is a fundamental requirement to training a successor. The reason the person is busiest is because (s)he cannot do these things. Your choice is not to load them up but encourage them to become more effective by letting others do the work WITH them.
Overly busy people are a risk - ultimately they crash and burn with no one to pick up the pieces.
Jan 24, 2020 4:27 PM
Luis Branco
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Dear Mustafa Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion
We agree with part of what you wrote: "The busiest man also always needs to train a successor to take his place"
How can we apply this concept to project planning?
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Peter RapinSubject Matter Expect; Project Delivery| Independent ConsultantOntario, Canada
Jan 24, 2020 11:01 AM
Replying to Mustafa AlMashhadi
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I believe this can be true if the busiest man be smart and create his world and tools, have supporting environment and management
The busiest man also need always to train a successor to take his place so he can easily get higher position or he can get leisure when he wants so..
I would argue that the busiest (wo)man cannot train a successor and in fact cannot delegate any meaningful work which is a fundamental requirement to training a successor. The reason the person is busiest is because (s)he cannot do these things. Your choice is not to load them up but encourage them to become more effective by letting others do the work WITH them.
Overly busy people are a risk - ultimately they crash and burn with no one to pick up the pieces.
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Jan 24, 2020 4:32 PM
Luis Branco
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Dear Peter
Thank you for this opinion
I would love to understand what you wrote
Which leads you to say: "I would argue that the busiest (wo) man cannot train a successor and in fact cannot delegate any meaningful work which is a fundamental requirement to training a successor.".
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Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Jan 24, 2020 11:01 AM
Replying to Mustafa AlMashhadi
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I believe this can be true if the busiest man be smart and create his world and tools, have supporting environment and management
The busiest man also need always to train a successor to take his place so he can easily get higher position or he can get leisure when he wants so..
Dear Mustafa Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion
We agree with part of what you wrote: "The busiest man also always needs to train a successor to take his place"
How can we apply this concept to project planning? Saving Changes...
Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Jan 24, 2020 11:31 AM
Replying to Peter Rapin
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I would argue that the busiest (wo)man cannot train a successor and in fact cannot delegate any meaningful work which is a fundamental requirement to training a successor. The reason the person is busiest is because (s)he cannot do these things. Your choice is not to load them up but encourage them to become more effective by letting others do the work WITH them.
Overly busy people are a risk - ultimately they crash and burn with no one to pick up the pieces.
Dear Peter
Thank you for this opinion
I would love to understand what you wrote
Which leads you to say: "I would argue that the busiest (wo) man cannot train a successor and in fact cannot delegate any meaningful work which is a fundamental requirement to training a successor.".
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1 reply by Peter Rapin
Jan 24, 2020 5:47 PM
Peter Rapin
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Typically the busiest man is busy because he can not, will not allow others to do the work. He will tell you he is too busy to bother with training others, no one else can learn how to do it and/or he does't have time to check the work of others anyway.
He will not train others, he will not delegate as this takes away the spot light or makes him feel inadequate. Don't forget the topic is "busiest man" not most productive nor most efficient. In my experience the busy man is a risk rather than an opportunity.
I suppose it is possible for the busiest man to be the most effective as well but that's an exception.
The proverb should read: "In a pinch give the work to the most effective man as he'll find the person with the ability and time to do it..
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Peter RapinSubject Matter Expect; Project Delivery| Independent ConsultantOntario, Canada
Jan 24, 2020 4:32 PM
Replying to Luis Branco
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Dear Peter
Thank you for this opinion
I would love to understand what you wrote
Which leads you to say: "I would argue that the busiest (wo) man cannot train a successor and in fact cannot delegate any meaningful work which is a fundamental requirement to training a successor.".
Typically the busiest man is busy because he can not, will not allow others to do the work. He will tell you he is too busy to bother with training others, no one else can learn how to do it and/or he does't have time to check the work of others anyway.
He will not train others, he will not delegate as this takes away the spot light or makes him feel inadequate. Don't forget the topic is "busiest man" not most productive nor most efficient. In my experience the busy man is a risk rather than an opportunity.
I suppose it is possible for the busiest man to be the most effective as well but that's an exception.
The proverb should read: "In a pinch give the work to the most effective man as he'll find the person with the ability and time to do it..
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Jan 25, 2020 5:09 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Peter
Thank you for your opinion
We have different perspectives on the interpretation to give to the reflection that I published.
It hadn't occurred to me
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Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Jan 24, 2020 5:47 PM
Replying to Peter Rapin
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Typically the busiest man is busy because he can not, will not allow others to do the work. He will tell you he is too busy to bother with training others, no one else can learn how to do it and/or he does't have time to check the work of others anyway.
He will not train others, he will not delegate as this takes away the spot light or makes him feel inadequate. Don't forget the topic is "busiest man" not most productive nor most efficient. In my experience the busy man is a risk rather than an opportunity.
I suppose it is possible for the busiest man to be the most effective as well but that's an exception.
The proverb should read: "In a pinch give the work to the most effective man as he'll find the person with the ability and time to do it..
Dear Peter
Thank you for your opinion
We have different perspectives on the interpretation to give to the reflection that I published.
It hadn't occurred to me Saving Changes...
"Ambition is like a frog sitting on a Venus Flytrap. The flytrap can bite and bite, but it won't bother the frog because it only has little tiny plant teeth. But some other stuff could happen and it could be like ambition."
