Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Jan 26, 2020 7:05 AM
Replying to Thomas Walenta
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Well, it is the hybrid of competition and cooperation. And it is an example of an agile organization, which adapts to circumstances (aka is opportunistic). Still there might be a strategic component to it: win market share in the long term.
Think given the increasing speed of changes, a traditional competitor might morph into a potential partner. First in specific situations, and if disruption of a market place is growing, as a long term partnership, even a joint venture or M&A.
A problem is if you shaped a culture over long years to see others as the enemy, it is harder to accept for staff that it now becomes a partner. External enemies for both might be a trigger to seek cooperation, see the automotive industry and Tesla, US/Russia vs. global warming.
In terms of project economy, what are enemies? We deal with them as adversary stakeholders anyhow. We seek to borrow power by cooperation and increasing value. We do not think the world is a zero sum game, but believe that we can add value by cooperation. As a profession, we think competition is not a helpful behavior. So we would rather look at cooperation and probably use coopetition as a strategy to change our competitive organization.
Spot on Thomas, very well explained !
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Jan 27, 2020 3:57 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Rami Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion
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Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Jan 26, 2020 3:09 PM
Replying to Joao Sarmento
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Hi Kiron,
After reading your thoughts, I agree it's a matter of growing the market instead of increasing the market share.
It's competitive form of win-win cooperation.
Dear João
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion
Do you think it is possible that, at a car show, a manufacturer will deliver a part of its order book to a competitor just to increase the market?
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1 reply by Joao Sarmento
Jan 27, 2020 5:26 AM
Joao Sarmento
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Hi Luís,
Regarding that specific example, maybe yes maybe no... it would depend a lot on the context, potential gains and to what extent their products are similar...
Let's say we talking about oranges (or another product from a certain specific region), or something you want to create a market for... you could do that (or if legal in that country, maybe resell the other competitors' product(s)).
You might want to cooperate with competition to grow the market into something bigger (BTW, I'm not talking about creating a cartel/colluding),and not focusing on going after each others clients but on going after new ones. In a non-saturated market you usually spend less money going after new clients and getting someone else's clients.
Assuming that the companies are in a healthy situation, if you maintain the market share but the market doubles its size... It's good for everyone... Win-win :)
I'll try to discover an article I read on this and send it to you...
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Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Jan 26, 2020 4:03 PM
Replying to Alexandre Costa
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Hi Luís,
I think @Thomas presented the topic very well, nevertheless in case of corporations or join ventures all in name of share resources so they could apply to big projects, be aware that the corporations should be aware that the leverage of one partner at the expenses of the other partner in name of growth could happen. ( Is it ethical , I have doubts )
Alexandre.
Dear Alexandre
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion
In large projects and because there is complementarity in the services they offer, there are companies that compete in consortium
We can also watch the subcontracting of services from companies that offer similar products
In the second scenario, are we talking about coopetition? Saving Changes...
Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Jan 26, 2020 4:46 PM
Replying to Rami Kaibni
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Spot on Thomas, very well explained !
Dear Rami Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion Saving Changes...
Dear João
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion
Do you think it is possible that, at a car show, a manufacturer will deliver a part of its order book to a competitor just to increase the market?
Hi Luís,
Regarding that specific example, maybe yes maybe no... it would depend a lot on the context, potential gains and to what extent their products are similar...
Let's say we talking about oranges (or another product from a certain specific region), or something you want to create a market for... you could do that (or if legal in that country, maybe resell the other competitors' product(s)).
You might want to cooperate with competition to grow the market into something bigger (BTW, I'm not talking about creating a cartel/colluding),and not focusing on going after each others clients but on going after new ones. In a non-saturated market you usually spend less money going after new clients and getting someone else's clients.
Assuming that the companies are in a healthy situation, if you maintain the market share but the market doubles its size... It's good for everyone... Win-win :)
I'll try to discover an article I read on this and send it to you...
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Jan 27, 2020 6:04 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear John
Thank you for sharing your opinion with us
Just to clarify, you are talking about competition/cooperation. It think this is the new norm as senior managers want to see people actually cooperating with each other to get the job done as apposed to on the surface cooperating but in the background inadvertently hindering each others progress. It also show that each person has shared interest and objectives and want to progress the interest of the organisation. How an individual creates alliances in the workplace and uses them to progress their own career path while at the same time achieving the objectives of the organisation's management will be the new way that peoples will be appraised.
Daire
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2 replies by Daire Guiney and Luis Branco
Jan 27, 2020 6:07 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Daire
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion
Interesting how he posed the issue of coopetition
Jan 27, 2020 8:17 AM
Daire Guiney
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Dear Luis,
Yes, I see most of my colleague here see it in terms of market share and how companies interact on the marketplace to take their own slice of the pie without effecting anybody else. In my opinion this is a mechanism for stiffing competition. For example a vertical integrated company that starts offering to delivery its competitor products is a mechanism for the larger company to eventually integrate the smaller company. It may look like cooperation but it has all the hallmarks of an ripe approach for M&A. I would call it Diplomacy in Business. On the surface it looks like cultural exchange and shared interest but in reality you are only interested in extending your influence and market dominance.
Daire
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Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Jan 27, 2020 5:26 AM
Replying to Joao Sarmento
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Hi Luís,
Regarding that specific example, maybe yes maybe no... it would depend a lot on the context, potential gains and to what extent their products are similar...
Let's say we talking about oranges (or another product from a certain specific region), or something you want to create a market for... you could do that (or if legal in that country, maybe resell the other competitors' product(s)).
You might want to cooperate with competition to grow the market into something bigger (BTW, I'm not talking about creating a cartel/colluding),and not focusing on going after each others clients but on going after new ones. In a non-saturated market you usually spend less money going after new clients and getting someone else's clients.
Assuming that the companies are in a healthy situation, if you maintain the market share but the market doubles its size... It's good for everyone... Win-win :)
I'll try to discover an article I read on this and send it to you...
Dear John
Thank you for sharing your opinion with us
I will wait to read the article you refer to Saving Changes...
Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Jan 27, 2020 5:38 AM
Replying to Daire Guiney
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Dear Luis,
Just to clarify, you are talking about competition/cooperation. It think this is the new norm as senior managers want to see people actually cooperating with each other to get the job done as apposed to on the surface cooperating but in the background inadvertently hindering each others progress. It also show that each person has shared interest and objectives and want to progress the interest of the organisation. How an individual creates alliances in the workplace and uses them to progress their own career path while at the same time achieving the objectives of the organisation's management will be the new way that peoples will be appraised.
Daire
Dear Daire
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion
Interesting how he posed the issue of coopetition Saving Changes...
Just to clarify, you are talking about competition/cooperation. It think this is the new norm as senior managers want to see people actually cooperating with each other to get the job done as apposed to on the surface cooperating but in the background inadvertently hindering each others progress. It also show that each person has shared interest and objectives and want to progress the interest of the organisation. How an individual creates alliances in the workplace and uses them to progress their own career path while at the same time achieving the objectives of the organisation's management will be the new way that peoples will be appraised.
Daire
Dear Luis,
Yes, I see most of my colleague here see it in terms of market share and how companies interact on the marketplace to take their own slice of the pie without effecting anybody else. In my opinion this is a mechanism for stiffing competition. For example a vertical integrated company that starts offering to delivery its competitor products is a mechanism for the larger company to eventually integrate the smaller company. It may look like cooperation but it has all the hallmarks of an ripe approach for M&A. I would call it Diplomacy in Business. On the surface it looks like cultural exchange and shared interest but in reality you are only interested in extending your influence and market dominance.
Daire
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Jan 27, 2020 9:08 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Daire
Thank you for sharing your point of view with us
There are contexts in which people (companies) cooperate but in other contexts they compete
In the context of a team, the sharing of Know how to reach a certain objective, how can it be considered?
Two companies offering the same products and / services that come together to respond to a contest?
Which is healthier, in your opinion, in the project teams? Competition, collaboration or coopetition?
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Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Jan 27, 2020 8:17 AM
Replying to Daire Guiney
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Dear Luis,
Yes, I see most of my colleague here see it in terms of market share and how companies interact on the marketplace to take their own slice of the pie without effecting anybody else. In my opinion this is a mechanism for stiffing competition. For example a vertical integrated company that starts offering to delivery its competitor products is a mechanism for the larger company to eventually integrate the smaller company. It may look like cooperation but it has all the hallmarks of an ripe approach for M&A. I would call it Diplomacy in Business. On the surface it looks like cultural exchange and shared interest but in reality you are only interested in extending your influence and market dominance.
Daire
Dear Daire
Thank you for sharing your point of view with us
There are contexts in which people (companies) cooperate but in other contexts they compete
In the context of a team, the sharing of Know how to reach a certain objective, how can it be considered?
Two companies offering the same products and / services that come together to respond to a contest?
Which is healthier, in your opinion, in the project teams? Competition, collaboration or coopetition?
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1 reply by Daire Guiney
Jan 28, 2020 9:33 AM
Daire Guiney
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Dear Luis,
I would see your question as what is more natural and apposed to what is more healthier. By that I mean rarely do you have mergers of equals whether its sharing intellectual property, resources, value add for customers or shared services facilities their is always a more dominate player that brings in the 'smaller' player into the negotiation for any such cooperation between two organisations.
My approach would be:
1. Collaboration 2. Competition 3. Cooperation.
I would see cooperation as my least favourite approach as I see it as a mask for more ulterior motives no matter how its packaged.