Peeyush BansalProgram Manager| IBMGreater Noida, Uttar Pardesh, India
Though its not at all easy to prepare and clear PMI PgMP certification and it really gives you good amount of knowledge about Program management area, but I doubt that industries really recognize this certification as valuable as this should be... While more focus is towards project management, but Program management is also one of the critical area in a company to manage and achieve Organizational Strategic goals... I believe Program management gives a better methodology to monitor and control projects execution and this should get more visibility and valuation now... But I hardly see this trends... your views pls ? Saving Changes...
Thomas WalentaGlobal Project Economy ExpertHackenheim, Germany
Agree Peeyush, the popularity of PgMP with about 3000 certificate holders is not as PMP with a million.
Industries often even fail to see the value of project management and struggle to understand the difference of projects and programs.
So for the moment it is up to the individual to see value in pursuing the PgMP.
Potential salary increases like the average 20% possible with PMP can not be calculated given the low numbers. I have heard of 60% increase and also of no recognition at all. Anecdotal.
So for now I see it more on the individual motivation to go this path.
In the end, it increases self-confidence, ability to communicate with C-Suite, understanding value creation via benefits and many more. It also prepares for a change towards a growth mindset.
I am a proud PgMP and I obtained it after retirement. Never stop learning.
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Jan 31, 2020 5:17 AM
Peeyush Bansal
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Thanks for your views Thomas and I completely agreed on those. PgMP path is not that easy and not yet industry recognized or in demand so one has to be self motivated to take this on. I also got motivated myself last year and completed that. And no doubt that's worth doing as it gives you lots of knowledge and confidence as you said rightly...
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Peeyush BansalProgram Manager| IBMGreater Noida, Uttar Pardesh, India
Jan 31, 2020 2:34 AM
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Agree Peeyush, the popularity of PgMP with about 3000 certificate holders is not as PMP with a million.
Industries often even fail to see the value of project management and struggle to understand the difference of projects and programs.
So for the moment it is up to the individual to see value in pursuing the PgMP.
Potential salary increases like the average 20% possible with PMP can not be calculated given the low numbers. I have heard of 60% increase and also of no recognition at all. Anecdotal.
So for now I see it more on the individual motivation to go this path.
In the end, it increases self-confidence, ability to communicate with C-Suite, understanding value creation via benefits and many more. It also prepares for a change towards a growth mindset.
I am a proud PgMP and I obtained it after retirement. Never stop learning.
Thanks for your views Thomas and I completely agreed on those. PgMP path is not that easy and not yet industry recognized or in demand so one has to be self motivated to take this on. I also got motivated myself last year and completed that. And no doubt that's worth doing as it gives you lots of knowledge and confidence as you said rightly... Saving Changes...
It depends on the organization. Generally, I do not think so.
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Jan 31, 2020 9:11 AM
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For sure... but I mean to say like PMP is so much recognized by most of the organization, PgMP is not in similar demand and that is not a mandatory certification for a Program manager job role so even if one clear this certification, that does not make any difference in valuation...
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Peeyush BansalProgram Manager| IBMGreater Noida, Uttar Pardesh, India
Jan 31, 2020 8:13 AM
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It depends on the organization. Generally, I do not think so.
For sure... but I mean to say like PMP is so much recognized by most of the organization, PgMP is not in similar demand and that is not a mandatory certification for a Program manager job role so even if one clear this certification, that does not make any difference in valuation... Saving Changes...
Product Operations Program ManagerBarcelona, Cataluña, Spain
What I can say about this is based on job openings for Program Managers. They typically require the candidate to have experience in Program Management, and... a PMP certification! I have yet to see one that requires PMI PgM certification.
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2 replies by Peeyush Bansal and Susan Marangos
Jan 31, 2020 11:31 AM
Peeyush Bansal
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Exactly the point I am making it. Thanks for your views Eduard.
Feb 26, 2020 4:08 AM
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Same. Most job descriptions got senior roles usually require a PMP plus an advanced degree (along with some kind of Agile/Scrum certification).
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Peeyush BansalProgram Manager| IBMGreater Noida, Uttar Pardesh, India
Jan 31, 2020 9:47 AM
Replying to Eduard Hernandez
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What I can say about this is based on job openings for Program Managers. They typically require the candidate to have experience in Program Management, and... a PMP certification! I have yet to see one that requires PMI PgM certification.
Exactly the point I am making it. Thanks for your views Eduard. Saving Changes...
What I can say about this is based on job openings for Program Managers. They typically require the candidate to have experience in Program Management, and... a PMP certification! I have yet to see one that requires PMI PgM certification.
Same. Most job descriptions got senior roles usually require a PMP plus an advanced degree (along with some kind of Agile/Scrum certification). Saving Changes...
I’m PMP and PgMP and could not find a job in program management as no one really cares about your certificate. Most hiring managers have no clue about PgMP and they treat projects and programs same which is not the case.
projects deliver output or outcomes where as programs are intended to achieve benefits to the organization with multiple projects not achievable otherwise . Saving Changes...
Amanda HarrisLeonardo DRSSpace Coast, FL, United States
I'm not currently a PgMP holder, but I did begin to pursue it at one point, then redirected myself toward the microcredentials for Organizational Transformation. I am considering pursuing it again sometime in the future, but I'll likely pursue a MBA first. During the first half of this year I was engulfed in an intense job search and here are some of my observations... Many organizations don't know the difference between a PMP and PgMP. In fact, I've seen many job descriptions citing "Program Management Certification (PMP)". There are some organizations who do recognize and value PgMP, and I think those organizations are in specific industries, like aerospace, defense contracting, and government contracting. I don't believe it's very widespread yet. I agree with the others that you must pursue a PgMP because you WANT to, understanding that many organizations do not yet understand the value in it. For those who do have it, though, I hope they are educating organizations and helping to change that. Saving Changes...
Michael WellesManaging Director| EdWel Project and Risk Management TrainingChicago, Il, United States
We're not seeing much demand for the PgMP. However, we suggest credential seekers visit Linkedin or Indeed and search for jobs/positions of interest. In many cases, you will see that the PMP is suggested for an applicant. This is the best way to get independent verification prior to pursuing another certification. Saving Changes...
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