Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Feb 08, 2020 1:50 PM
Replying to Keith Novak
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Louis,
The answer to your question is "Yes I do know."
If you are going to make assertions, defend your own assertion with supporting evidence rather than making vague statements and asking others to assert why they are not true. Asking others to refute an unsupported assertion is the antithesis of logic.
Sharks are the the greatest threat to project management in the current decade. Prove me wrong.
Dear Keith Thank you for sharing your opinion with us
The Technical Skills of Project Management, according to the PMBOK Guide, concern, with particular reference to:: - Governance (projects, programs and portfolios) - Data Collection and Modeling - Earned Value Management - Life Cycle Management (projects, programs and portfolios) - Performance Management (projects, programs and portfolios) - Requirements and Feasibility Management - Risk Management - Schedule Management, Time, Budget, Resources, Cost Estimation Agile Practices
No reference is made to the supporting technology used in project management
In other words.
I can know a lot about how to use technology but not know anything about Project Management
On the other hand, with the evolution of technology in the short term, it will be of no use to me to know much about Project Management
So I fully understand that the PMI has created this new area of competence and autonomously
Since my original language is not English, I didn't understand what I meant when I wrote: "Sharks are the greatest threat to project management in the current decade. Prove me wrong"
But honestly, I would like to understand Saving Changes...
"I can know a lot about how to use technology but not know anything about Project Management" I can also know a lot about project management without utilizing digital technology.
I am now very curious: Please explain what specific knowledge areas of digital technology are essential to effective project management, wholly independent of strategy, leadership, or any of the technical skills you listed in bullet points.
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Feb 08, 2020 3:23 PM
Luis Branco
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Dear Keith
Thank you for this opinion that I absolutely agree with: "I can also know a lot about project management without using digital technology"
Despite this I think that with the evolution of technology, in the short term, it will be of no use to me to know much about Project Management
It wasn't me who created the Talent Triangle, nor the Technical, Leadership, and Strategic skills and Business Management of the Talent Triangle.
It was the PMI and as a result of the results of the "Pulse the Profession" study
It was also the PMI that introduced Digital Skills as a result of the same study (results obtained years later)
I shared the link on the topic
Now I can already know what I meant by: "Sharks are the greatest threat to project management in the current decade. Prove me wrong"?
Saving Changes...
Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Feb 08, 2020 2:44 PM
Replying to Keith Novak
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Louis,
Thank you for your input.
"I can know a lot about how to use technology but not know anything about Project Management" I can also know a lot about project management without utilizing digital technology.
I am now very curious: Please explain what specific knowledge areas of digital technology are essential to effective project management, wholly independent of strategy, leadership, or any of the technical skills you listed in bullet points.
Dear Keith
Thank you for this opinion that I absolutely agree with: "I can also know a lot about project management without using digital technology"
Despite this I think that with the evolution of technology, in the short term, it will be of no use to me to know much about Project Management
It wasn't me who created the Talent Triangle, nor the Technical, Leadership, and Strategic skills and Business Management of the Talent Triangle.
It was the PMI and as a result of the results of the "Pulse the Profession" study
It was also the PMI that introduced Digital Skills as a result of the same study (results obtained years later)
I shared the link on the topic
Now I can already know what I meant by: "Sharks are the greatest threat to project management in the current decade. Prove me wrong"?
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1 reply by Keith Novak
Feb 08, 2020 3:32 PM
Keith Novak
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Louis,
Sharks are large apex predators who utilize speed, stealth,and many rows of sharp pointy teeth to attack their prey. An entire week is devoted to them on the Discovery channel. Clearly, both their potency and notoriety of a predator makes them an existential threat to our profession. The only hope for humanity is that they do not become digital. How is this not the case in your opinion?
Dear Keith
Thank you for this opinion that I absolutely agree with: "I can also know a lot about project management without using digital technology"
Despite this I think that with the evolution of technology, in the short term, it will be of no use to me to know much about Project Management
It wasn't me who created the Talent Triangle, nor the Technical, Leadership, and Strategic skills and Business Management of the Talent Triangle.
It was the PMI and as a result of the results of the "Pulse the Profession" study
It was also the PMI that introduced Digital Skills as a result of the same study (results obtained years later)
I shared the link on the topic
Now I can already know what I meant by: "Sharks are the greatest threat to project management in the current decade. Prove me wrong"?
Louis,
Sharks are large apex predators who utilize speed, stealth,and many rows of sharp pointy teeth to attack their prey. An entire week is devoted to them on the Discovery channel. Clearly, both their potency and notoriety of a predator makes them an existential threat to our profession. The only hope for humanity is that they do not become digital. How is this not the case in your opinion?
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Feb 08, 2020 4:02 PM
Luis Branco
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Dear Keith
Thanks for your comment
I didn't understand the reason why you did it in the context of our exchange of views
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Amjad AliSenior Business Analyst - Information Security| IFCDelta, British Columbia, Canada
Interesting question...but I am also with Keith on this one. Digital skills should be part of technical...To me, there is no such thing as "digital strategy" - that would be interesting. There is no such thing as "digital leadership" or "digital business management" Those seem absurd to me to even think of. In fact digital skills on its own seems rather useless...it combined to technology is the only plausible combination.
Its like a messenger and the message...digital on its own is like a messenger without a message. Combine it with technology then we have a deal., There are other types of technology by the way, there is business technology (BT), which, many a times has nothing to do with a computer.
Yes, PMI might throw an idea around but to me separating digital skills from technical skills seems a little to excited about the blinking leds.
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Feb 08, 2020 4:09 PM
Luis Branco
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Dear Amjad
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion
I fully understand the distinction between technical skills (related to project management) and skills of using support technology (for now)
According to the prognosis of some people, all activities in the technical domain of project management will be carried out by Artificial Intelligence
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Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Feb 08, 2020 3:32 PM
Replying to Keith Novak
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Louis,
Sharks are large apex predators who utilize speed, stealth,and many rows of sharp pointy teeth to attack their prey. An entire week is devoted to them on the Discovery channel. Clearly, both their potency and notoriety of a predator makes them an existential threat to our profession. The only hope for humanity is that they do not become digital. How is this not the case in your opinion?
Dear Keith
Thanks for your comment
I didn't understand the reason why you did it in the context of our exchange of views Saving Changes...
Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Feb 08, 2020 3:52 PM
Replying to Amjad Ali
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Interesting question...but I am also with Keith on this one. Digital skills should be part of technical...To me, there is no such thing as "digital strategy" - that would be interesting. There is no such thing as "digital leadership" or "digital business management" Those seem absurd to me to even think of. In fact digital skills on its own seems rather useless...it combined to technology is the only plausible combination.
Its like a messenger and the message...digital on its own is like a messenger without a message. Combine it with technology then we have a deal., There are other types of technology by the way, there is business technology (BT), which, many a times has nothing to do with a computer.
Yes, PMI might throw an idea around but to me separating digital skills from technical skills seems a little to excited about the blinking leds.
Dear Amjad
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion
I fully understand the distinction between technical skills (related to project management) and skills of using support technology (for now)
According to the prognosis of some people, all activities in the technical domain of project management will be carried out by Artificial Intelligence Saving Changes...
Luis, I was simply responding to you using hyperbole as a mirror to reflect upon your own line of questioning. I'm trying to approach the subject with a bit of humor. My apologies if it doesn't translate. Understanding the communication gap, I will be blunt for the sake of clarity:
You approached your line of questioning with an unsupported premise and then challenged anyone who did not agree to support their answer. I responded with a direct answer. You challenged that answer without a supporting argument other that I should read someone else's opinion.
You don't support your own claims or even summarize the claims from others that you are promoting, but insist that everyone who does not agree must do more research and substantiate their own position.
I fully appreciate the tactic. It goes back to classic debate and how you must address all the arguments of your opponent, regardless of how spurious, or you lose. Today, this translates to: Spend 30 seconds on an unsupported argument, so that others must spend hours addressing it, as in: Prove to me why sharks are not the greatest threat to PM", (which you have still failed to address ;-)
You got me. I spent the time to address not the question, but the line of questioning for the sake of clarity.
Respectfully Keith
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Feb 09, 2020 4:27 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Keith
I just asked questions :-)
I try to reveal, through what I write, acceptance, respect, appreciation of the answers that are given and consideration and esteem by the people who answer me
A few years ago, by the same author, I read two books about sharks:
- How to swim with sharks without being eaten alive
- Shark proof
Maybe you'll find the answer there :-)
Respectfully
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Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Feb 08, 2020 6:09 PM
Replying to Keith Novak
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Luis, I was simply responding to you using hyperbole as a mirror to reflect upon your own line of questioning. I'm trying to approach the subject with a bit of humor. My apologies if it doesn't translate. Understanding the communication gap, I will be blunt for the sake of clarity:
You approached your line of questioning with an unsupported premise and then challenged anyone who did not agree to support their answer. I responded with a direct answer. You challenged that answer without a supporting argument other that I should read someone else's opinion.
You don't support your own claims or even summarize the claims from others that you are promoting, but insist that everyone who does not agree must do more research and substantiate their own position.
I fully appreciate the tactic. It goes back to classic debate and how you must address all the arguments of your opponent, regardless of how spurious, or you lose. Today, this translates to: Spend 30 seconds on an unsupported argument, so that others must spend hours addressing it, as in: Prove to me why sharks are not the greatest threat to PM", (which you have still failed to address ;-)
You got me. I spent the time to address not the question, but the line of questioning for the sake of clarity.
Respectfully Keith
Dear Keith
I just asked questions :-)
I try to reveal, through what I write, acceptance, respect, appreciation of the answers that are given and consideration and esteem by the people who answer me
A few years ago, by the same author, I read two books about sharks:
- How to swim with sharks without being eaten alive
- Shark proof
Maybe you'll find the answer there :-)
Respectfully Saving Changes...
Jeremy DacuycuySenior Project Manager| UC Davis HealthSacramento, Ca, United States
Hi Luis, that’s a good question. I appreciate everyone’s point of view. I think PMI needs to try and keep to a limited number of Talent groups to help earning PDUs remain simple to categorize. Thus, if I had to pick one of the three existing groups, I would agree with others that Digital Skills would fit into Technology area. I hope a fourth Talent group is not added... Saving Changes...