Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Feb 07, 2020 3:48 PM
Replying to Keith Novak
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Yes I read them.
Dear Keith
Now that I know you have read the content of the two links I shared, do you maintain the same opinion: "is limited to digital technology, they have an extremely myopic view of the world of PM"?
I would very much like to understand the reasons why you think that (I'm open-minded, completely available to read your opinion ... and curious to know that opinion :-))
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1 reply by Keith Novak
Feb 07, 2020 6:03 PM
Keith Novak
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As Peter points out, digital technologies are tools used to make PM functions more efficient.
Again, the definitions provided include: technology quotient (TQ)…"a person’s ability to adapt, manage and integrate content advances in technology for a project or organization." People focused in a mainly IT environment may look at "technology" as IT only, much as they often think of "systems" as information systems. It's not. Depending on your field, there may be many new technologies that can lead to new and more efficient ways of solving problems. R&D is not exclusive to computing applications.
Is the data from a laser measuring system stored and transmitted in a digital format? Sure but that's a side note to the usage of optics technology. Can structures be analyzed via FEM? Sure but the digital aspect only makes solving the complex mathematical problem feasible.
I would turn the question back on you: What about managing data in a digital format makes it an overarching knowledge area that differentiates it from either communications, or technical skills?
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Alexandre CostaScrum Master| Integer Consulting - Pictet technologiesLoures, Portugal
Dear Luis,
Definitely I agree with @keith, digital skills are a subset of technical skills. Nowadays , digital skills are generalized by almost every professional sectors , it's not a exclusive feature of project manager, is the inevitable result of the tecnologic evolution.
Nowadays, new illiterates are those who cannot cope with technology, so in most cases it has even become a basic skill such as writing and reading.
Alexandre
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Feb 08, 2020 6:22 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Alexandre Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion
Do you know the PMI Talent Triangle? And when (in what year)?
How did this proposal for the 3 skills of the Project Manager come about?
What are the skills that PMI considers to be technical skills in Project Management?
By the way, what skills does PMI consider to be Leadership skills? Strategy and business knowledge?
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Peter RapinSubject Matter Expect; Project Delivery| Independent ConsultantOntario, Canada
Digital technology are tools we use to manage projects. We used to use pencils, abacus, slide rules and drafting boards. Granted, digital technology has made it mach more efficient but these are still tools. Does one needs some level of skill in the use of tools? Of course, but no more so than in the past. In actual fact, project administrators need more tool skills than the project manager as that function can be delegated to a certain point.
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Feb 08, 2020 6:29 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Peter
Thank you for your opinion
Let's go back to the basics
What, in your opinion, does PMI consider to be project management technical skills?
We agree that the technology to support project management has evolved, with particular reference in recent years
Right now what do we have?
Sophisticated technological tools, some using AI, which project managers need to switch to
Dear Keith
Now that I know you have read the content of the two links I shared, do you maintain the same opinion: "is limited to digital technology, they have an extremely myopic view of the world of PM"?
I would very much like to understand the reasons why you think that (I'm open-minded, completely available to read your opinion ... and curious to know that opinion :-))
As Peter points out, digital technologies are tools used to make PM functions more efficient.
Again, the definitions provided include: technology quotient (TQ)…"a person’s ability to adapt, manage and integrate content advances in technology for a project or organization." People focused in a mainly IT environment may look at "technology" as IT only, much as they often think of "systems" as information systems. It's not. Depending on your field, there may be many new technologies that can lead to new and more efficient ways of solving problems. R&D is not exclusive to computing applications.
Is the data from a laser measuring system stored and transmitted in a digital format? Sure but that's a side note to the usage of optics technology. Can structures be analyzed via FEM? Sure but the digital aspect only makes solving the complex mathematical problem feasible.
I would turn the question back on you: What about managing data in a digital format makes it an overarching knowledge area that differentiates it from either communications, or technical skills?
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Feb 08, 2020 6:35 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Keith
Thank you for sharing your opinion with us
Let's go back to the basics
Do you know what PMI considers to be technical project management techniques?
And leadership skills? And Strategic and Business Management Skills?
How and when did the talent triangle appear?
Saving Changes...
Mike FrenetteManager, IT PMO| Halifax Water (retired)Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
Dear Luis,
I believe the skilled use of technology is critical to the success of projects. This particularly true in the age of virtual card walls, virtual geographically dispersed teams, executive dashboards, virtual collaboration spaces and highly visible product backlogs and project plans.
Whether this will manifest itself in the spreading of two ends of the talent triangle to make room for a fourth side.... well... that is anyone's guess.
But it is indeed a talent required by just about any profession these days.
Those who become digital experts in the digital age will be well equipped for future success.
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Feb 08, 2020 6:43 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Michael
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion
You wrote: "Whether this will manifest itself in the spreading of two ends of the talent triangle to make room for a fourth side .... well ... that is anyone's guess"
Did you have the opportunity to read the PMI links I shared?
I am convinced that it will evolve into a thetaedron :-)
We agree with what you wrote: "Those who become digital experts in the digital age will be well equipped for future success"
Who dominates the technology (at the moment) knows how to manage projects?
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Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Feb 07, 2020 4:36 PM
Replying to Alexandre Costa
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Dear Luis,
Definitely I agree with @keith, digital skills are a subset of technical skills. Nowadays , digital skills are generalized by almost every professional sectors , it's not a exclusive feature of project manager, is the inevitable result of the tecnologic evolution.
Nowadays, new illiterates are those who cannot cope with technology, so in most cases it has even become a basic skill such as writing and reading.
Alexandre
Dear Alexandre Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion
Do you know the PMI Talent Triangle? And when (in what year)?
How did this proposal for the 3 skills of the Project Manager come about?
What are the skills that PMI considers to be technical skills in Project Management?
By the way, what skills does PMI consider to be Leadership skills? Strategy and business knowledge? Saving Changes...
Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Feb 07, 2020 5:16 PM
Replying to Peter Rapin
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Digital technology are tools we use to manage projects. We used to use pencils, abacus, slide rules and drafting boards. Granted, digital technology has made it mach more efficient but these are still tools. Does one needs some level of skill in the use of tools? Of course, but no more so than in the past. In actual fact, project administrators need more tool skills than the project manager as that function can be delegated to a certain point.
Dear Peter
Thank you for your opinion
Let's go back to the basics
What, in your opinion, does PMI consider to be project management technical skills?
We agree that the technology to support project management has evolved, with particular reference in recent years
Right now what do we have?
Sophisticated technological tools, some using AI, which project managers need to switch to Saving Changes...
Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Feb 07, 2020 6:03 PM
Replying to Keith Novak
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As Peter points out, digital technologies are tools used to make PM functions more efficient.
Again, the definitions provided include: technology quotient (TQ)…"a person’s ability to adapt, manage and integrate content advances in technology for a project or organization." People focused in a mainly IT environment may look at "technology" as IT only, much as they often think of "systems" as information systems. It's not. Depending on your field, there may be many new technologies that can lead to new and more efficient ways of solving problems. R&D is not exclusive to computing applications.
Is the data from a laser measuring system stored and transmitted in a digital format? Sure but that's a side note to the usage of optics technology. Can structures be analyzed via FEM? Sure but the digital aspect only makes solving the complex mathematical problem feasible.
I would turn the question back on you: What about managing data in a digital format makes it an overarching knowledge area that differentiates it from either communications, or technical skills?
Dear Keith
Thank you for sharing your opinion with us
Let's go back to the basics
Do you know what PMI considers to be technical project management techniques?
And leadership skills? And Strategic and Business Management Skills?
How and when did the talent triangle appear?
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1 reply by Keith Novak
Feb 08, 2020 1:50 PM
Keith Novak
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Louis,
The answer to your question is "Yes I do know."
If you are going to make assertions, defend your own assertion with supporting evidence rather than making vague statements and asking others to assert why they are not true. Asking others to refute an unsupported assertion is the antithesis of logic.
Sharks are the the greatest threat to project management in the current decade. Prove me wrong.
Saving Changes...
Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Feb 07, 2020 8:58 PM
Replying to Mike Frenette
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Dear Luis,
I believe the skilled use of technology is critical to the success of projects. This particularly true in the age of virtual card walls, virtual geographically dispersed teams, executive dashboards, virtual collaboration spaces and highly visible product backlogs and project plans.
Whether this will manifest itself in the spreading of two ends of the talent triangle to make room for a fourth side.... well... that is anyone's guess.
But it is indeed a talent required by just about any profession these days.
Those who become digital experts in the digital age will be well equipped for future success.
Dear Michael
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion
You wrote: "Whether this will manifest itself in the spreading of two ends of the talent triangle to make room for a fourth side .... well ... that is anyone's guess"
Did you have the opportunity to read the PMI links I shared?
I am convinced that it will evolve into a thetaedron :-)
We agree with what you wrote: "Those who become digital experts in the digital age will be well equipped for future success"
Who dominates the technology (at the moment) knows how to manage projects? Saving Changes...
Dear Keith
Thank you for sharing your opinion with us
Let's go back to the basics
Do you know what PMI considers to be technical project management techniques?
And leadership skills? And Strategic and Business Management Skills?
How and when did the talent triangle appear?
Louis,
The answer to your question is "Yes I do know."
If you are going to make assertions, defend your own assertion with supporting evidence rather than making vague statements and asking others to assert why they are not true. Asking others to refute an unsupported assertion is the antithesis of logic.
Sharks are the the greatest threat to project management in the current decade. Prove me wrong.
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Feb 08, 2020 2:21 PM
Luis Branco
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Dear Keith Thank you for sharing your opinion with us
The Technical Skills of Project Management, according to the PMBOK Guide, concern, with particular reference to:: - Governance (projects, programs and portfolios) - Data Collection and Modeling - Earned Value Management - Life Cycle Management (projects, programs and portfolios) - Performance Management (projects, programs and portfolios) - Requirements and Feasibility Management - Risk Management - Schedule Management, Time, Budget, Resources, Cost Estimation Agile Practices
No reference is made to the supporting technology used in project management
In other words.
I can know a lot about how to use technology but not know anything about Project Management
On the other hand, with the evolution of technology in the short term, it will be of no use to me to know much about Project Management
So I fully understand that the PMI has created this new area of competence and autonomously
Since my original language is not English, I didn't understand what I meant when I wrote: "Sharks are the greatest threat to project management in the current decade. Prove me wrong"
