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PMBOK Guide 7th Disaster Waiting to Happen?

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Luis Branco CEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, Ldª Carcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Have you had the opportunity to watch the video on YouTube on the topic: "PMBOK Guide 7th Disaster Waiting to Happen?"

What is your opinion on the content of this video?
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Vincent Guerard Coach - Trainer - Speaker - Advisor| Freelance Mont-Royal, Quebec, Canada
Luis,

I think there is a valid point in the video. I just completed an audit, where I could consider PMBOK 5ed has a reference in project management. The direction that was taken in rev 6 and now 7th, may push another standard up such as PRINCE2.

For those that are new to PRINCE2 an abbreviation for "PRojects IN Controlled Environments".

We will see in time, once it is released if it is not too late. If PMBOK can't use as a reference it will lose ground.

Is PMI leaving for others the opportunity to become a standard?

Let's hope
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Feb 11, 2020 12:04 PM
Luis Branco
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Dear Vincent
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion

The PMBOK Guide is a standard, a reference in the world of Project Management

Is there any reason to go after PRINCE2?

Or is the reciprocal the true one?
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Luis Branco CEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, Ldª Carcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Feb 10, 2020 4:50 PM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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George -

Given the decision to fully rewrite the Guide and the radical shift from a process-centric to a principles-centric model, I doubt a fully democratic, consensus-based approach would have yielded something good in a reasonable timeframe. Previous editions were incremental evolutions - this is a revolution.

The sections which I reviewed as part of Review Team 1 were encouraging so I'm inclined to be optimistic.

Kiron
Dear Kiron
Was the community interested in this "revolution"?

Isn't the DA and Flex package enough?
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2 replies by Kiron Bondale and Thomas Walenta
Feb 11, 2020 3:02 PM
Kiron Bondale
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Given the growing obesity of the previous editions of the Guide and the perception that it was prescriptive rather than a framework with choices, I think a "do over" was a reasonable option for PMI to consider.

How they went about it, and whether the quality of the final product will be accepted by the broader community is to be seen.

While it would have been ideal to involve the broader PMI community in the creation of the Guide, they did engage 200 volunteers in the review of it so one hopes that would at least ensure that any blatant issues are avoided.

Kiron
Feb 25, 2020 4:59 PM
Thomas Walenta
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Great question, Luis, I would change it slightly to

Was the market interested in this "revolution"? Or is it.

A 2019 study of PwC found that of 100% value created by projects in UK, only 5% came from IT, which is the bastion of agile. Construction, services, government, healthcare all have more than 10%. IT is characterized by small projects and many people looking for help in making ideas a reality, so the voice is loud. So is it about democracy or value creation?

Yes, we live in an age of increasing speed of change. We have yet to find an answer how to deal with it. In the moment it is 'whatever works'.
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Luis Branco CEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, Ldª Carcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Feb 10, 2020 5:21 PM
Replying to George Jucan
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A "standard" is not a revolutionary work - thought leaders spearhead revolutions through articles, books and speeches, convincing people to adopt innovative ideas and practices. Eventually more and more people adopt them until they become "standard".

There is no standard out there because someone wants it to be a standard - it only becomes so if accepted and followed by the vast majority.

The "standard" as exposed - because is not anchored in widely accepted practices - is simply a book in project management the same as hundreds other out there.

And last thought: I really don't think that we, as project management practitioners, should cut corners for expediency. If we do that in real life with our projects we know how they'll turn out to be - and if we know it's wrong, why would we do this with the standard that guides our activity?
Dear George
Thank you for sharing your opinion with us
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Luis Branco CEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, Ldª Carcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Feb 11, 2020 10:56 AM
Replying to Craig Perue
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Luis, thanks for posting this very productive question.

One of the reasons PMI's standards and guides has greater credibility than competing organizations is the appearance (at least) of greater consultation with practitioners and academics in the production of those standards and guides. Unfortunately, Phil's video along with many of the comments I have read here and elsewhere, suggests that PMI's stakeholder management has not met the expectations of some community members. However, we need to acknowledge that the comment period for the exposure draft is intended to allow stakeholders - like Phil - to weigh in.

Phil has a problem not only with the process, but with the product - the Draft Standard. Having worked with the PMBOK since the second edition, I have proudly paraded the sixth edition through my university and executive education classes as a volume worthy of study, even as I pointed out the weaknesses regarding leadership and people issues. I suspect that in the near-term, in my university lecturer and project management coach roles, I will continue to use PMBOK v6 as the expert guide to project management processes, and add PMBOK v7 as a second reference volume.

Craig.
Dear Craig
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion

In my opinion there were things to improve in version 6 of the PMBOK Guide. For example: having put resources and people in the same bag

What is behind this "revolution"?

There's a lot to be told
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George Jucan Managing Partner| Organizational Perfomance Enablers Network Woodbridge, Ontario, Canada
Feb 11, 2020 11:06 AM
Replying to Luis Branco
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Dear George
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion

Do you really believe that we will be able to change the approach?
From Principles to Processes?

I agree. It is in the right place that we can (and should) give our opinion
This community, ProjectManagement.com is not that location?
I think that the practitioners voices must be heard - the most efficient place should be the Exposure Draft tool https://www.pmi.org/pmbok-guide-standards/...-exposure-draft because each submitted comment MUST be replied by the PMBOK 7 team - so if they see enough comments in a certain direction one would hope that they will stop and think it through.

Of course other discussions like here, on PMI's social platform (so I hope someone is paying attention to trends) and LinkedIn are useful, but there's no guarantee that the right people will know about them... so I would encourage anyone that has anything to say to do it by using the Exposure Draft avenue - but time is running out as commenting period closes this Friday!
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Luis Branco CEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, Ldª Carcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Feb 11, 2020 11:30 AM
Replying to Vincent Guerard
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Luis,

I think there is a valid point in the video. I just completed an audit, where I could consider PMBOK 5ed has a reference in project management. The direction that was taken in rev 6 and now 7th, may push another standard up such as PRINCE2.

For those that are new to PRINCE2 an abbreviation for "PRojects IN Controlled Environments".

We will see in time, once it is released if it is not too late. If PMBOK can't use as a reference it will lose ground.

Is PMI leaving for others the opportunity to become a standard?

Let's hope
Dear Vincent
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion

The PMBOK Guide is a standard, a reference in the world of Project Management

Is there any reason to go after PRINCE2?

Or is the reciprocal the true one?
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1 reply by Vincent Guerard
Feb 11, 2020 8:17 PM
Vincent Guerard
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Luis,

If PMBOK rev7 is too light, people will look at other options for a standard. PRINCE2 is the second most recognized standard in project management.
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Kiron Bondale Retired | Mentor| Retired Welland, Ontario, Canada
Feb 11, 2020 11:33 AM
Replying to Luis Branco
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Dear Kiron
Was the community interested in this "revolution"?

Isn't the DA and Flex package enough?
Given the growing obesity of the previous editions of the Guide and the perception that it was prescriptive rather than a framework with choices, I think a "do over" was a reasonable option for PMI to consider.

How they went about it, and whether the quality of the final product will be accepted by the broader community is to be seen.

While it would have been ideal to involve the broader PMI community in the creation of the Guide, they did engage 200 volunteers in the review of it so one hopes that would at least ensure that any blatant issues are avoided.

Kiron
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Feb 25, 2020 5:46 PM
Luis Branco
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Dear Kiron
Thank you for sharing your opinion with us

Honestly, I have difficulty understanding the hurry to have published a new edition of the PMBOK Guide as well as the restricted nucleus of people involved in the review of the PMBOK Guide 6th edition
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LORI WILSON RETIRED - Technical Project Manager| RETIRED - LifePoint Health Clarkston, Wa, United States
Hi Luis: I just read Kiron's message and think 200 reviewers shows due diligence for sure! We all have an opportunity to share our thoughts like George and others have reminded us. It's like voting in America - we all have a responsibility and a voice. Our project management industry continues to evolve and grow, so streamlining the information and adding new concepts is a good thing.
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Feb 25, 2020 5:48 PM
Luis Branco
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Dear Lori
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion

Let's see what will happen.

But that is a significant change in approach, it is no less true
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Vincent Guerard Coach - Trainer - Speaker - Advisor| Freelance Mont-Royal, Quebec, Canada
Feb 11, 2020 12:04 PM
Replying to Luis Branco
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Dear Vincent
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion

The PMBOK Guide is a standard, a reference in the world of Project Management

Is there any reason to go after PRINCE2?

Or is the reciprocal the true one?
Luis,

If PMBOK rev7 is too light, people will look at other options for a standard. PRINCE2 is the second most recognized standard in project management.
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Feb 25, 2020 5:52 PM
Luis Branco
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Dear Vincent
Obeyed by this opinion

During these years I have been involved with PMI.
I present the PMBOK Guide as the world reference guide in project management

I would be sad if project management professionals chose another organization or another standard
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Vicki Wisecup Owner, Founder and Trainer| Vicki's Basic Computer Training, Dallas, Paulding County, Georgia Dallas, Ga, United States
I have just now begun PMP Exam training in January 2020, and I feel overwhelmed by trying to get all three attempts on the Exam before June 30th, as we are being told, because of this new version coming out July 1st. It seems unfair and too high an expectation to accomplish. So, can you elaborate somewhere about exactly what types of challenges we'll be facing if we don't get the exam done by June 30th? Thank you, Vicki, the newbie on the Course, but not in managing large projects in Healthcare!
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Feb 25, 2020 5:56 PM
Luis Branco
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Dear Vicki
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion

I studied through the PMBOK Guide and asked more than 3,000 questions similar to those in the exam

It took me a month to prepare for certification

I am convinced that if you commit to studying and taking the exam, you will pass the first attempt

I wish you an excellent journey and exam success
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