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Haitham Mohamed Zaki Agile Business Consultant| VIDSCOLA DWC Cairo, Egypt
Hello Everyone,
many heard about the DA "Disciplined Agile" certificates and it's partnership with PMI, my question is that what about the PMI-ACP, will it be phased out and replaced by the new DA body ?
for me it doesn't make any sense if someone is holding ACP to go through a new track and pay a lot of many to get more or less the same amount of knowledge specially if he is an Agile practitioner who has practical experience on Agile
waiting for your feedback
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Susan Marangos
Feb 12, 2020 5:20 PM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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When I wrote the ACP exam in 2017 it was pretty Scrum-centric. Little bit of lean, little bit of Kanban & XP, but mostly Scrum references. It does cover more than Scrum does, but so does DA with its multiple lifecycle options, and arguably, DA has a richer set of values & principles than those in the original Manifesto (which is what the ACP exam tests).

Regardless, both ACP and DA certifications have orders of magnitude fewer certified folks than Scrum Alliance and Scrum.org.

Kiron
True, but I've seen the PMI-ACP listed as a preferred requirement in some job listings (sometimes as PMP and/or PMI-ACP). I've yet to see any of the DA certificates listed. That, of course, doesn't mean there isn't value in the DA certificates but I generally think it's prudent to hit your major certificates first that someone will want and THEN expand.
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Stelian ROMAN Project Manager| MicroSafety Carlingford, New South Wales, Australia
@Kiron I had no idea that ACP is Scrum centric, Looking at the list of references and based on my experience with the exam development I seriously doubt that ACP is Scrum oriented. (I read all the books indicated as a reference on the PMI site). Unlike DA, ACP is not software oriented and is not a specialisation but an introduction in Agile for a project team member. As a practitioner I believe that both certifications are valuable and it will be very sad if ACP is discontinued. It is by far the most complete and the only agnostic Agile certification.
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Stelian ROMAN Project Manager| MicroSafety Carlingford, New South Wales, Australia
@Kiron on the othar hand evem if it was Scrum centric, most Agile teams use (or believe/claim that use) Scrum (see the 14 state of Agile surveys). For me it's a bit odd that you have a Scrum Master role in other frameworks. Based on the definition of the role in the Scrum Guide having it outside Scrum is a nonsense.
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Sergio Luis Conte Helping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based Organizations Buenos Aires, Argentina
Feb 12, 2020 5:20 PM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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When I wrote the ACP exam in 2017 it was pretty Scrum-centric. Little bit of lean, little bit of Kanban & XP, but mostly Scrum references. It does cover more than Scrum does, but so does DA with its multiple lifecycle options, and arguably, DA has a richer set of values & principles than those in the original Manifesto (which is what the ACP exam tests).

Regardless, both ACP and DA certifications have orders of magnitude fewer certified folks than Scrum Alliance and Scrum.org.

Kiron
@Kiron "write the exam" kills "first certificated in Latam".
you won with checkmate...jejeje
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