Christopher HealySR IT Program Manager| General MotorsBerkley, Mi, United States
Does anyone have any recent data on the impact of having/not having project managers has to an organization? I did some research and most of what I found from PMI is 5-10 years old.
I am putting together a business case for a PM team and would like to back it up with facts around delivery, speed to market, cost of not having project management, etc.
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Scott SmithProject Manager| Scott Smith PMP LLCVenice, Fl, United States
I respect the spirit of your question, and while I don't have the content you seek, I'm struck by how odd it seems that one may have to "sell" the value of project management still, decades after the field has been well-established.
Someday I hope the question will sound as odd as one of these:
"Any data on the impact of a CFO with credentials in financial principles?"
"Any data on the impact of organizations having/not-having employees who can read?"
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1 reply by Christopher Healy
Feb 12, 2020 9:45 AM
Christopher Healy
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Scott,
I would suggest any company should make financial decisions based on data. If you are going to hire resources and dedicated folks who are essentially overhead, you should show the value. We have a number of different teams looking to hire different types of people (product management, developers, etc), the role of a CEO it to make those hard decisions and where we invest the money.
I don't think it will be a hard sell that PM's are needed and can provide value, but I want to be able to support my business case.
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Christopher HealySR IT Program Manager| General MotorsBerkley, Mi, United States
Feb 12, 2020 9:38 AM
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I respect the spirit of your question, and while I don't have the content you seek, I'm struck by how odd it seems that one may have to "sell" the value of project management still, decades after the field has been well-established.
Someday I hope the question will sound as odd as one of these:
"Any data on the impact of a CFO with credentials in financial principles?"
"Any data on the impact of organizations having/not-having employees who can read?"
Scott,
I would suggest any company should make financial decisions based on data. If you are going to hire resources and dedicated folks who are essentially overhead, you should show the value. We have a number of different teams looking to hire different types of people (product management, developers, etc), the role of a CEO it to make those hard decisions and where we invest the money.
I don't think it will be a hard sell that PM's are needed and can provide value, but I want to be able to support my business case. Saving Changes...
Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
I face this situations several times. Please let me say that is a big mistake in the approach. I am not saying you are wrong, I am saying something is missing. For example, when organizations start the process to implement an ERP then one of the key things is to have assigned project managers. The point is: who will be assigned? Unfortunatelly in the past the role was giving to the functional manager in charge of the functions which the ERP automatize. That was catastrophic. So, the point is not have or not have project managers. The point is to assume the risk because do not have project managers that assume the rol with the needed skills. If you do not have that into account stastistics you can find has no sense.
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Feb 12, 2020 10:11 AM
Christopher Healy
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Agree. Having the right person to perform any role is key to success and I would like to highlight that with the data. Essentially, what is the cost of not doing something...
We do have PMO's and PM teams who support specific functions, so we definitely understand the value of the project management. Like many places, there is more work than people (which is a good thing) and I would like to provide the business case as to why we need an additional team.
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Christopher HealySR IT Program Manager| General MotorsBerkley, Mi, United States
Feb 12, 2020 9:50 AM
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I face this situations several times. Please let me say that is a big mistake in the approach. I am not saying you are wrong, I am saying something is missing. For example, when organizations start the process to implement an ERP then one of the key things is to have assigned project managers. The point is: who will be assigned? Unfortunatelly in the past the role was giving to the functional manager in charge of the functions which the ERP automatize. That was catastrophic. So, the point is not have or not have project managers. The point is to assume the risk because do not have project managers that assume the rol with the needed skills. If you do not have that into account stastistics you can find has no sense.
Agree. Having the right person to perform any role is key to success and I would like to highlight that with the data. Essentially, what is the cost of not doing something...
We do have PMO's and PM teams who support specific functions, so we definitely understand the value of the project management. Like many places, there is more work than people (which is a good thing) and I would like to provide the business case as to why we need an additional team. Saving Changes...
I've found that organizations which don't value project management will take the "that's not us" approach to external data.
Rather than do that, quantify the impacts of not having project management on recent high profile projects in the organization - that can help to create a case for change.
I've tended to "sell" it as "insurance" for project outcomes...
I'm leery of the "benefits" of PM for certain types of organizations. As Sergio has stated numerous times "we" all perform a form of PM in both our personal and business lives. Before embarking on such an exercise, clearly identify the intended benefits, which is what you are trying to do. Having said that, and based on the OP comment about the issue with finding relevant data, you will likely have to "baseline' your current processes such that you can look for room in efficiencies if formal PM processes are to be applied. Saving Changes...
Jorge EscotoDirector of PM/PMO| CET Professionals ServicesSan Pedro Sula, Cortes, Honduras
I agree with Scott. It is a strange question, but I have also searched the same info for the same reason. Combine Pulse of the Profession materials with Brightline materials, and please share what you come up with. What I deed in summary was explain that projects are changes, and they can not be managed with the same people and mindset with what we manage the business as usual.
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Feb 12, 2020 3:39 PM
Christopher Healy
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I like that approach on explaining it.
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Christopher HealySR IT Program Manager| General MotorsBerkley, Mi, United States
Feb 12, 2020 11:46 AM
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I agree with Scott. It is a strange question, but I have also searched the same info for the same reason. Combine Pulse of the Profession materials with Brightline materials, and please share what you come up with. What I deed in summary was explain that projects are changes, and they can not be managed with the same people and mindset with what we manage the business as usual.
I like that approach on explaining it. Saving Changes...
