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Luis Branco CEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, Ldª Carcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
As a project manager do you have to be politically correct?

Do you want to tell us about one of the frogs you had to swallow?
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Drew Craig Sr. Agile & Product Coach| Vanguard Philadelphia, Pa, United States
Sure. I think of it more as being professionally minded.
By being professionally minded, we present EQ; sensitive and empathetic to others and generally promote and advocate for inclusivity.
My professional life is not a time for me to be on my soapbox.
Do you find there is a difference b/t PC and professionally minded?
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Feb 16, 2020 8:58 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Andrew
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion.

I suppose PC is politically correct
It depends on the connotation we give to the concept of politically correct

You didn't make any comments to swallow frogs
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Luis Branco CEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, Ldª Carcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Feb 16, 2020 7:40 AM
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Sure. I think of it more as being professionally minded.
By being professionally minded, we present EQ; sensitive and empathetic to others and generally promote and advocate for inclusivity.
My professional life is not a time for me to be on my soapbox.
Do you find there is a difference b/t PC and professionally minded?
Dear Andrew
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion.

I suppose PC is politically correct
It depends on the connotation we give to the concept of politically correct

You didn't make any comments to swallow frogs
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Kiron Bondale Retired | Mentor| Retired Welland, Ontario, Canada
Luis -

I'm unfamiliar with this phrase - does swallowing frogs mean biting your tongue to not say what you truly feel?

If so, then I've swallowed a swamp full of frogs across the various companies I've worked for where there was not a culture of radical candor. Where there is, one can speak what is on one's mind so long as one is being professional.

This is also something we see with long-lived teams - in those, team members truly understand one another so there is less of a need to constantly be PC...

Kiron
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2 replies by Alexandre Costa and Luis Branco
Feb 16, 2020 9:59 AM
Alexandre Costa
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Kiron,

Yes @kiron the meaning is what you are thinking, is a Portuguese expression. I think during our life, at personal or professional level we all swallow frogs. Sometimes because we aren't in a safe environment where we can express our opinion or sometimes to avoid that problem escalate to uncontrollable levels.

Alexandre.
Feb 16, 2020 12:02 PM
Luis Branco
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Dear Kiron
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion

You made me smile when I read what you wrote: "I've swallowed a swamp full of frogs across the various companies I've worked" :-)

Expression can also mean doing something you disagree with

Does this expression: "swallow frogs" exist in English, or am I mistaken?
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Alexandre Costa Scrum Master| Integer Consulting - Pictet technologies Loures, Portugal
Feb 16, 2020 9:39 AM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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Luis -

I'm unfamiliar with this phrase - does swallowing frogs mean biting your tongue to not say what you truly feel?

If so, then I've swallowed a swamp full of frogs across the various companies I've worked for where there was not a culture of radical candor. Where there is, one can speak what is on one's mind so long as one is being professional.

This is also something we see with long-lived teams - in those, team members truly understand one another so there is less of a need to constantly be PC...

Kiron
Kiron,

Yes @kiron the meaning is what you are thinking, is a Portuguese expression. I think during our life, at personal or professional level we all swallow frogs. Sometimes because we aren't in a safe environment where we can express our opinion or sometimes to avoid that problem escalate to uncontrollable levels.

Alexandre.
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Feb 16, 2020 12:04 PM
Luis Branco
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Dear Alexandre
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion

Frogs are also swallowed when we have to do something we don't agree with :-)
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Luis Branco CEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, Ldª Carcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Feb 16, 2020 9:39 AM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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Luis -

I'm unfamiliar with this phrase - does swallowing frogs mean biting your tongue to not say what you truly feel?

If so, then I've swallowed a swamp full of frogs across the various companies I've worked for where there was not a culture of radical candor. Where there is, one can speak what is on one's mind so long as one is being professional.

This is also something we see with long-lived teams - in those, team members truly understand one another so there is less of a need to constantly be PC...

Kiron
Dear Kiron
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion

You made me smile when I read what you wrote: "I've swallowed a swamp full of frogs across the various companies I've worked" :-)

Expression can also mean doing something you disagree with

Does this expression: "swallow frogs" exist in English, or am I mistaken?
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1 reply by Kiron Bondale
Feb 16, 2020 4:10 PM
Kiron Bondale
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Hello Luis -

The closest English expression would be to "bite your tongue". Effectively by doing so, you won't say what is truly on your mind.

That is one of the advantages I have frequently enjoyed as an independent consultant - I have little fear of repercussion so am able to speak my mind freely.

Kiron
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Luis Branco CEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, Ldª Carcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Feb 16, 2020 9:59 AM
Replying to Alexandre Costa
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Kiron,

Yes @kiron the meaning is what you are thinking, is a Portuguese expression. I think during our life, at personal or professional level we all swallow frogs. Sometimes because we aren't in a safe environment where we can express our opinion or sometimes to avoid that problem escalate to uncontrollable levels.

Alexandre.
Dear Alexandre
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion

Frogs are also swallowed when we have to do something we don't agree with :-)
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Daire Guiney Dublin, Dublin, Ireland
Dear Luis,

There is nothing worse then being caught out in a meeting, being under prepared for a meeting, getting the incorrect information and using it or being caught on the hop by missing some key fact and not relay that information to a key stakeholder.

As with most project managers its important to defend your corner especially when you are standing over information and data that is paramount to the strategic decision making of the project. But if information you are using is shown and proven to be factually incorrect and wholly inaccurate, the best you can hope for is a red face.

How you recover from this situation is career defining and is as much about you character as your reputation.

Daire
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Feb 17, 2020 4:08 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Daire
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion

Is the politically correct just a consequence of the Project Manager's lack of preparation?
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Kiron Bondale Retired | Mentor| Retired Welland, Ontario, Canada
Feb 16, 2020 12:02 PM
Replying to Luis Branco
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Dear Kiron
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion

You made me smile when I read what you wrote: "I've swallowed a swamp full of frogs across the various companies I've worked" :-)

Expression can also mean doing something you disagree with

Does this expression: "swallow frogs" exist in English, or am I mistaken?
Hello Luis -

The closest English expression would be to "bite your tongue". Effectively by doing so, you won't say what is truly on your mind.

That is one of the advantages I have frequently enjoyed as an independent consultant - I have little fear of repercussion so am able to speak my mind freely.

Kiron
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Feb 17, 2020 4:12 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Kiron
Thank you for sharing your opinion with us

Nothing like being an independent consultant :-)

Even so....:-)
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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Luis

In my culture, we say: “Swallow it” and in Canada we say “Bite your Tongue” like Kiron mentioned.

I’ve done that countless times to the extent that sometimes I feel my stomach quacking. Sometimes for the sake of being politically correct or sake of the project, you have to do that. It is inevitable especially when you work as an employee.

In my own side business as a consultant, I tend to have to do that less.

RK
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Feb 17, 2020 4:15 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Rami
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion

Upon reading what you wrote: "I’ve done that countless times to the extent that sometimes I feel my stomach quacking" I couldn’t stop laughing
Thanks for this moment

Unfortunately: "Sometimes for the sake of being politically correct or sake of the project, you have to do that"
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Luis Branco CEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, Ldª Carcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Feb 16, 2020 12:52 PM
Replying to Daire Guiney
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Dear Luis,

There is nothing worse then being caught out in a meeting, being under prepared for a meeting, getting the incorrect information and using it or being caught on the hop by missing some key fact and not relay that information to a key stakeholder.

As with most project managers its important to defend your corner especially when you are standing over information and data that is paramount to the strategic decision making of the project. But if information you are using is shown and proven to be factually incorrect and wholly inaccurate, the best you can hope for is a red face.

How you recover from this situation is career defining and is as much about you character as your reputation.

Daire
Dear Daire
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion

Is the politically correct just a consequence of the Project Manager's lack of preparation?
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1 reply by Daire Guiney
Feb 17, 2020 5:37 AM
Daire Guiney
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Dear Luis,

Time constraints of a project means a project manager has to go with the information that they have to hand and make strategic decisions on that information. The project manager delegates a lot of responsibilities of a project to their subordinates and as such are reliant that their quality of their work is on a par with that of the project manager especially if the project manager does not have the time or forethought to check the validity of the information being provided.

With that thought in mind a project manager does a substantial amount of decision making in the dark, only knowing part of the situation, making assumption when information is not to hand and filling in blanks and gaps in information when none exists at all.

So your original question on lack of preparation may have its routes in the ability of the project manger to manage change, the unexpected, stakeholders and the level of quality that a project team adheres to on a daily basis.

Daire
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