Dear Kiron
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion
How many times have we been manipulated by what you consider to be "credible sources"?
This is why we need to find more than one credible source, ideally representing different schools of thought - if there is alignment across what they all say, then one might believe that to be the truth...
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Feb 21, 2020 3:03 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Kiron
Thank you for sharing your opinion with us
And when...
Isn't the "dominant opinion" the one that corresponds to the truth?
And when it turns out that, after all, the "dominant opinion" was not the real one?
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Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Feb 20, 2020 1:20 PM
Replying to Mayte Mata Sivera
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Luis,
I didn't see the video, and as other team members I pass.
When as was a teenager my parents own a small shop that sold newspapers, so every day early in the morning or at night I took one of each (in Spanish, English, and French)...I realized that the same topic was explained in big headlines in a different way:
The bottle is white
The big bottle is white
The bottle owned by this party is white
Is that bottle grey?
Since then, I don't believe one unique source, I read news (now without my fingers getting black), same new from different sources and I build my own opinion.
Dear Mayte
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion
Interesting the situation reported regarding the newspapers and the way they give the news
Interesting what you wrote: "Since then, I don't believe one unique source, I read news (now without my fingers getting black), same new from different sources and I build my own opinion"
In this case, we are talking about a news source that, apparently, did not want to see :-) Saving Changes...
Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Feb 20, 2020 5:12 PM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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This is why we need to find more than one credible source, ideally representing different schools of thought - if there is alignment across what they all say, then one might believe that to be the truth...
Dear Kiron
Thank you for sharing your opinion with us
And when...
Isn't the "dominant opinion" the one that corresponds to the truth?
And when it turns out that, after all, the "dominant opinion" was not the real one?
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1 reply by Kiron Bondale
Feb 21, 2020 8:44 AM
Kiron Bondale
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This is where our own judgment has to come into play. Just because someone is speaking the loudest, doesn't mean they are correct.
Kiron
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Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Feb 20, 2020 1:57 PM
Replying to Rami Kaibni
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Glad to know I was able to make you smile, my friend :-)
Dear Rami
It is very nice to be able to smile with friends :-)
Dear Vincent
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion
How many times have social media alerted us to real situations?
Was it social media that drew attention to the corona virus outbreak in China?
Are we living again in a period in which the post-truth reigns?
Luis,
Social media can alert us of many things, but there are also may false alarm. It is like the story where someone cries wolf so many times that the real call doesn't get an answer.
Is some controlling country social media is the alternative, now a day.
Information is easily available in most developed countries and believes to be true. That, we don't question the truth, the source and don't search ourselves! People in controlling countries have learn to do that long ago, before social media.
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Feb 21, 2020 11:19 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Vincent Thank you for your opinion
I've seen so much ... do you remember the Iraq war?
And the subprime crisis in 2007/2008?
Who alerted you to the coronavirus? Where did that person do it?
Luis,
I didn't see the video, and as other team members I pass.
When as was a teenager my parents own a small shop that sold newspapers, so every day early in the morning or at night I took one of each (in Spanish, English, and French)...I realized that the same topic was explained in big headlines in a different way:
The bottle is white
The big bottle is white
The bottle owned by this party is white
Is that bottle grey?
Since then, I don't believe one unique source, I read news (now without my fingers getting black), same new from different sources and I build my own opinion.
Mayte,
It is so true, what is also true is that they don't always tell the same story. Or at least with a different point of view. I can see that a lot here in Canada. The same event reported in a different region, a different language results in different stories. Saving Changes...
Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Feb 21, 2020 10:55 AM
Replying to Vincent Guerard
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Luis,
Social media can alert us of many things, but there are also may false alarm. It is like the story where someone cries wolf so many times that the real call doesn't get an answer.
Is some controlling country social media is the alternative, now a day.
Information is easily available in most developed countries and believes to be true. That, we don't question the truth, the source and don't search ourselves! People in controlling countries have learn to do that long ago, before social media.
Dear Vincent Thank you for your opinion
I've seen so much ... do you remember the Iraq war?
And the subprime crisis in 2007/2008?
Who alerted you to the coronavirus? Where did that person do it?
We better stick around :-) Saving Changes...
Peter RapinSubject Matter Expect; Project Delivery| Independent ConsultantOntario, Canada
There are three levels of news - the facts, the interpretation of the facts and opinions based on these interpretations. In the good old days the facts where essentially based on observation and scientific verification. The interpretation of the facts and opinions evolving from those interpretations would differ based on perception, experience and personal agenda. Establishing one's belief was do-able as we could agree on the facts.
However, now we have to deal with "alternate facts" so the entire news cycle is compromised. Interpretation and opinion becomes mute/meaningless and in fact news is more about opinion than the facts..
Before one can accept, or even consider, interpretation and opinion provided to us one must drill down to the supporting facts (observation and scientific validation). We also have to consider the intent/motivation of those providing the interpretation and opinion.
Again in the good old days "news" was essentially the presentation of facts. Interpretation and opinion were totally separate. Today "news" is the interpretation and opinion, the underlying facts are second or even third. Sometimes the facts are glossed over, or there aren't any.
Why is this happening? Because we want total service. We no longer wish to think things out. We expect someone else to provide a ready-made interpretation and opinion. Saves us the trouble. News is much like the fast food industry - as little effort for the consumer as possible.
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Feb 21, 2020 1:01 PM
Luis Branco
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Dear Peter
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion
I would like to better understand the relationship between who wrote the video I mentioned and people's comments on this topic