Manuel PerezProject Management Coordinator| Las Vegas Valley Water DistrictNorth Las Vegas, Nv, United States
For example, PMP Level 1, PMP Level 2, etc. PMP Level 1 being the entry level equivalent to getting current type of certification. Level 2 and higher based on specific experience (Software Tools, Project Manager Role # of years, Project scope, etc.). That way, the certification will actually help establish where in the Profession the PM is. Saving Changes...
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Manuel
I am not in favor of this at all. Adding multi-layers doesn't mean it makes things better. There is already CAPM which is an entry level certification.
Certifications doesn't establish where the PM is in the profession. They are merely an indication that the PM has adequate level of In-Depth Knowledge. It is the experience that matter.
This is my personal and professional Opinion.
RK Saving Changes...
Thomas WalentaGlobal Project Economy ExpertHackenheim, Germany
Agree with Rami.
It would suggest there is a standard career path while we hear we must be more flexible and adaptive.
Careers are no longer linear paths. Saving Changes...
Manuel PerezProject Management Coordinator| Las Vegas Valley Water DistrictNorth Las Vegas, Nv, United States
True. Is just frustrating when I meet a PMP certified individual that have no idea on how to actually run a project by himself/herself. They might have been just the scheduler, or quality control manager, …. and those counts towards the total needed for certification. But they might not have any experience running the entire project as the PM and claim that because they obtained the PMP they can.
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1 reply by Wade Harshman
Feb 24, 2020 3:21 PM
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This is true, there are people who are awarded the PMP but don't have the knowledge or experience that are supposed to be necessary. This is why earning a PMP is not supposed to be an easy process. Unfortunately, there will always be people who look for shortcuts. We even find them here, on occasion.
I don't think having PMP tiers would resolve this, though. The same people would try to get the next level of certification, then the next, and the next without the additional education or experience.
PMI is already taking heat on LinkedIn and other communities for further "polluting" the agile certification pool with a whole slew of new DA-focused certs, so the last thing I think they should do is to do likewise on the general PM side of things.
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Feb 20, 2020 5:08 PM
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PMI is already taking heat on LinkedIn and other communities for further "polluting" the agile certification pool with a whole slew of new DA-focused certs, so the last thing I think they should do is to do likewise on the general PM side of things.
Kiron
Interesting comment Kiron.
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1 reply by Alexandre Costa
Feb 20, 2020 7:37 PM
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Rami,
@Kiron has a point there, I have been seeing this phenomenon also, but I am not surprised. To many levels of certifications , in fact the first level has no value at all , and the second is doubtful.
Alexandre
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Alexandre CostaScrum Master| Integer Consulting - Pictet technologiesLoures, Portugal
Feb 20, 2020 6:19 PM
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Interesting comment Kiron.
Rami,
@Kiron has a point there, I have been seeing this phenomenon also, but I am not surprised. To many levels of certifications , in fact the first level has no value at all , and the second is doubtful.
Alexandre
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Feb 20, 2020 7:39 PM
Rami Kaibni
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Alexandre
I know he does and that's what I mentioned in my very first comment above. My comment to Kiron was more for what he mentioned about the heat PMI is taking about DA.
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Feb 20, 2020 7:37 PM
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Rami,
@Kiron has a point there, I have been seeing this phenomenon also, but I am not surprised. To many levels of certifications , in fact the first level has no value at all , and the second is doubtful.
Alexandre
Alexandre
I know he does and that's what I mentioned in my very first comment above. My comment to Kiron was more for what he mentioned about the heat PMI is taking about DA.
RK Saving Changes...
Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Dearest
In October 2019 I created a post on this topic:
With these changes that are taking place in the PMI I would not be surprised if the creation of several levels in the PMP certification happened Saving Changes...
Drew CraigSr. Agile & Product Coach| VanguardPhiladelphia, Pa, United States
In a sense, the levels are there; CAPM, PMP, PgMP, PfMP. There is a fine line b/t offering the right certification [path] for the right reasons without diluting the mission of the authoring body or the certifications themselves. Saving Changes...
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