"... The new PMI Authorized Training Partner Program will replace the current R.E.P. program. It ensures trainers are ready to prepare candidates for the new Project Management Professional (PMP)® exam, coming 1 July 2020..."
This Program will introduce a huge change in the project management ecosystem.
What are your thoughts about this and how will it affect you or your organization (new, old, potential REPs and training organizations)? Saving Changes...
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
May 12, 2020 8:00 AM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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Sorry Rami if I wasn't clear with my response.
ATP instructors will NOT have any awareness of the real PMP exam questions similar to non-ATP instructors.
I would guess that the instructional designers who are building PMI's prep course content are likely to have insights or even access to those. If so, I'm sure they have had to sign a gazillion NDAs and other legalese to take these secrets to their graves...
Kiron
Kiron
Thanks, now it makes better sense. Cheer !
RK Saving Changes...
Garry DeRoseDirector and CEO| CCFLCorning, Ny, United States
I have been involved with the REP program as a point of contact for less than a year although my organization has been an REP for some time. We have benefitted tremendously from our membership, are proud of being members and had hoped to continue that status. I am now trying to figure out if we still fit the organization I would understand all of this better if I had some additional information. Can someone help?
• How were the proposed changes to the REP program identified and approved?
• How will the increase in costs affect current REP providers and their customers?
• How will the change in costs and prices affect the budget of PMI as a corporate entity? (it would look like PMI will have significantly more income due to the increased fees being collected from membership, materials, and per person charges)
• Will smaller organizations with more limited budgets be able to stay as part of the new program?
We want to remain part of the program and this information will help us figure out how to do so. Please help us meet what will be a real crisis for us, the health care organizations we serve, and their staff members. Saving Changes...
Thank you Michael for bringing this topic for discussion.
I heard about it from my PMI chapter colleagues but the information so clear.
In my view it will also create confusion if people can take courses from non REP and also for the trainers.
I am giving training (volunteer) to PMI aspirant group, but will it be valid from now on? or need to register as trainer.
The info also do not cover details about individual certification of trainers.
As Kiron mentioned above the NON REP can still give the trainings, but do they need certified instructors, if yes how to go about it?
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1 reply by Kiron Bondale
Jun 09, 2020 8:20 AM
Kiron Bondale
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No - you do not need to have certified instructors to deliver PMP prep training if you are not part of the ATP. However, when students submit their 35 contact hours using your course hours, if they get audited, there should be sufficient evidence to show that the course was designed and delivered in a quality manner.
Garry - great questions. If you take a look through the LinkedIn REP discussion group (only for REP contacts), you will see a number of discussion threads which will answer most of your questions. As part of that, a poll was recently done to see how many existing REPs were planning to join the new program and 2/3 are still undecided...
Thank you Michael for bringing this topic for discussion.
I heard about it from my PMI chapter colleagues but the information so clear.
In my view it will also create confusion if people can take courses from non REP and also for the trainers.
I am giving training (volunteer) to PMI aspirant group, but will it be valid from now on? or need to register as trainer.
The info also do not cover details about individual certification of trainers.
As Kiron mentioned above the NON REP can still give the trainings, but do they need certified instructors, if yes how to go about it?
No - you do not need to have certified instructors to deliver PMP prep training if you are not part of the ATP. However, when students submit their 35 contact hours using your course hours, if they get audited, there should be sufficient evidence to show that the course was designed and delivered in a quality manner.
Garry - great questions. If you take a look through the LinkedIn REP discussion group (only for REP contacts), you will see a number of discussion threads which will answer most of your questions. As part of that, a poll was recently done to see how many existing REPs were planning to join the new program and 2/3 are still undecided...
Kiron
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1 reply by Tarun Nair
Jun 09, 2020 8:39 AM
Tarun Nair
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Thank you Kiron for clarification.
I thought it is going to be complex from now on.
No - you do not need to have certified instructors to deliver PMP prep training if you are not part of the ATP. However, when students submit their 35 contact hours using your course hours, if they get audited, there should be sufficient evidence to show that the course was designed and delivered in a quality manner.
Garry - great questions. If you take a look through the LinkedIn REP discussion group (only for REP contacts), you will see a number of discussion threads which will answer most of your questions. As part of that, a poll was recently done to see how many existing REPs were planning to join the new program and 2/3 are still undecided...
Kiron
Thank you Kiron for clarification.
I thought it is going to be complex from now on. Saving Changes...
Garry DeRoseDirector and CEO| CCFLCorning, Ny, United States
I joined the REP LinkedIn group in late 2019. At that point, the ATP program had been designed and approved by the membership. The discussion in the LinkedIn group was about the specific characteristics of the ATP program - sometimes to gain understanding and sometimes to assess their impact.
Sometime earlier in 2019, a number of needs had been identified, solutions had been proposed, and the responses to the needs had been planned – in some cases to remedy deficiencies and in other cases to update to new standards.
I would like to look at the documentation around this development process. Can somebody point me in the right direction to obtain it? I requested help from PMI, and they sent me a gracious note stating that after implementation of the ATP program, they would review my situation and respond.
My basic problem is that we are a small organization working with a small group of health care professionals to make project management part of their core competencies. If I understand the information I have obtained so far from forums and blogs, my organization will no longer be able to benefit from the program because the additional costs are beyond what we and our clients can afford.
I am also surprised at the substantial number of current members are not sure they will be part of the new program. Why would a program be put into place that left the current membership unable to take advantage of the improvements that it offers?
Can someone help me understand events up to this point and suggest ways to survive the costs of the changes? Saving Changes...
Vito MadaioMD| PMTSI (Project Management Training School Institute)Rome, Italy, Italy
If John Char will confirm that it will be acceptable for non-ATPs to provide the 35 contact hours as classroom or online education, it is ok. But what does it means that "PMI will give preferential exposure and treatment to ATPs"? The contact hours from non-ATPs will be acepted or not accepted. I hope PMI will clarify it soon. Thanks.
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1 reply by Kiron Bondale
Jul 04, 2020 6:04 PM
Kiron Bondale
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Vito -
What this means is that RFPs which PMI receives will be shared with ATPs (and not with non-ATP organizations). It also means there will be some "soft" marketing provided by PMI for members of the ATP.
This has nothing to do with contact hours or the ability to offer PDUs.
If John Char will confirm that it will be acceptable for non-ATPs to provide the 35 contact hours as classroom or online education, it is ok. But what does it means that "PMI will give preferential exposure and treatment to ATPs"? The contact hours from non-ATPs will be acepted or not accepted. I hope PMI will clarify it soon. Thanks.
Vito -
What this means is that RFPs which PMI receives will be shared with ATPs (and not with non-ATP organizations). It also means there will be some "soft" marketing provided by PMI for members of the ATP.
This has nothing to do with contact hours or the ability to offer PDUs.
Kiron Saving Changes...
Vito MadaioMD| PMTSI (Project Management Training School Institute)Rome, Italy, Italy
Why I don't see my post (a query about non-ATPs)?
Thanks Saving Changes...
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