Alexandre CostaScrum Master| Integer Consulting - Pictet technologiesLoures, Portugal
Agile/Hybrid Micro-Certification Pilot Test Taker: Experience: Minimum experience required: 5 years leading and directing projects, with additional experience in an agile/hybrid environment. PMP in good standing in at least 3 years.
Risk Management Micro-Certification Pilot Test Taker: Experience: Minimum experience required: 5 years leading and directing projects, with additional experience in Risk Management. PMP in good standing in at least 3 years.
It will not be time for PMP to stop to think which direction want to take, for me is more and more confused!!! Saving Changes...
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Feb 29, 2020 8:55 AM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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Yes, I did Rami - would be interesting to be a pilot participant to help to improve the quality of these. I had fun writing PMP exam questions on three occasions a decade or so back, so this will be a chance to do something similar.
Likewise Kiron. I received an email later that the closing dating wasn’t changed but I’ve submitted the applications already. Did you get that email ?
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1 reply by Kiron Bondale
Mar 01, 2020 9:06 AM
Kiron Bondale
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Yes I did Rami and like you I had already submitted my two applications so I guess they are allowing for more time for others to sign up.
Kiron
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Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
I will be there if the PMI selected me. I have no problem with that. I am not against "experiments", Certifications like ACP and PBA were created in this way, I was there, and it worked due to both have higher consistence.
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1 reply by Alexandre Costa
Mar 01, 2020 9:03 AM
Alexandre Costa
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Hi Sergio,
Good for you, good luck at personal level sincerely.
It's really a good principle that majority of the volunteer opportunities are for reputed, experienced members this reveals how inclusive PMI are being, they could save time avoiding sending this email to me. But don't get me wrong at local level it's the same a lot of publicity at mentor level or increase value in project manager role but in practice nothing progresses, I see no support to recent CAPM, PMP's, Not for talking in PMI-ACP's this ones are not in the radar of any volunteer position.
I hope that PMI knows how to collect samples to do experiments because depends of the purpose of the experiment, because there is a difference between using always the same sample (panel results) or different samples (trend results). But who am I just an insignificant member in this see of big fishes.
Alexandre
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Alexandre CostaScrum Master| Integer Consulting - Pictet technologiesLoures, Portugal
Mar 01, 2020 7:50 AM
Replying to Sergio Luis Conte
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I will be there if the PMI selected me. I have no problem with that. I am not against "experiments", Certifications like ACP and PBA were created in this way, I was there, and it worked due to both have higher consistence.
Hi Sergio,
Good for you, good luck at personal level sincerely.
It's really a good principle that majority of the volunteer opportunities are for reputed, experienced members this reveals how inclusive PMI are being, they could save time avoiding sending this email to me. But don't get me wrong at local level it's the same a lot of publicity at mentor level or increase value in project manager role but in practice nothing progresses, I see no support to recent CAPM, PMP's, Not for talking in PMI-ACP's this ones are not in the radar of any volunteer position.
I hope that PMI knows how to collect samples to do experiments because depends of the purpose of the experiment, because there is a difference between using always the same sample (panel results) or different samples (trend results). But who am I just an insignificant member in this see of big fishes.
Alexandre
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2 replies by Kiron Bondale and Sergio Luis Conte
Mar 01, 2020 9:08 AM
Kiron Bondale
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Their sample size for this experiment is 25 per micro-certification pilot exam. If they do a good job of getting a diverse group of SMEs, that should be sufficient, but if they take the path of least resistance, it will result in a polarized micro-cert. For example, with the agile/hybrid one, if they pick folks who have only been exposed to Scrum or similar sprint-based frameworks, the exam might not reflect alternate agile delivery approaches (e.g. continuous flow).
My guess is that they do a query on the VRMS based on certain criteria (e.g. years since getting PMP, what other certs a person has) to pick the target group for the invitations.
Kiron
Mar 01, 2020 9:31 AM
Sergio Luis Conte
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I do not agree the voluntary opportunities are for reputed members. At least, in my case, I am suscribed to PMI´s VRMS sytem then I received information about of lot of different possiblities then I applied to those I think are interesting because help me in my process of continue improvement but mainly because help me to contribute to the discipline. About the number of samples, as a person trained into mathematics and statistics field, I can not make a comment on that because I do not have enough information to calculate if the number of samples are right of not.
Likewise Kiron. I received an email later that the closing dating wasn’t changed but I’ve submitted the applications already. Did you get that email ?
Yes I did Rami and like you I had already submitted my two applications so I guess they are allowing for more time for others to sign up.
Kiron
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Mar 01, 2020 5:42 PM
Rami Kaibni
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Kiron, In fact, what I noticed is that they close the application submission time earlier than anticipated unless I overlooked something.
Good for you, good luck at personal level sincerely.
It's really a good principle that majority of the volunteer opportunities are for reputed, experienced members this reveals how inclusive PMI are being, they could save time avoiding sending this email to me. But don't get me wrong at local level it's the same a lot of publicity at mentor level or increase value in project manager role but in practice nothing progresses, I see no support to recent CAPM, PMP's, Not for talking in PMI-ACP's this ones are not in the radar of any volunteer position.
I hope that PMI knows how to collect samples to do experiments because depends of the purpose of the experiment, because there is a difference between using always the same sample (panel results) or different samples (trend results). But who am I just an insignificant member in this see of big fishes.
Alexandre
Their sample size for this experiment is 25 per micro-certification pilot exam. If they do a good job of getting a diverse group of SMEs, that should be sufficient, but if they take the path of least resistance, it will result in a polarized micro-cert. For example, with the agile/hybrid one, if they pick folks who have only been exposed to Scrum or similar sprint-based frameworks, the exam might not reflect alternate agile delivery approaches (e.g. continuous flow).
My guess is that they do a query on the VRMS based on certain criteria (e.g. years since getting PMP, what other certs a person has) to pick the target group for the invitations.
Kiron Saving Changes...
Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
Mar 01, 2020 9:03 AM
Replying to Alexandre Costa
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Hi Sergio,
Good for you, good luck at personal level sincerely.
It's really a good principle that majority of the volunteer opportunities are for reputed, experienced members this reveals how inclusive PMI are being, they could save time avoiding sending this email to me. But don't get me wrong at local level it's the same a lot of publicity at mentor level or increase value in project manager role but in practice nothing progresses, I see no support to recent CAPM, PMP's, Not for talking in PMI-ACP's this ones are not in the radar of any volunteer position.
I hope that PMI knows how to collect samples to do experiments because depends of the purpose of the experiment, because there is a difference between using always the same sample (panel results) or different samples (trend results). But who am I just an insignificant member in this see of big fishes.
Alexandre
I do not agree the voluntary opportunities are for reputed members. At least, in my case, I am suscribed to PMI´s VRMS sytem then I received information about of lot of different possiblities then I applied to those I think are interesting because help me in my process of continue improvement but mainly because help me to contribute to the discipline. About the number of samples, as a person trained into mathematics and statistics field, I can not make a comment on that because I do not have enough information to calculate if the number of samples are right of not.
Reputed is a polite way to say experienced members, nevertheless I only can talk of my experience with VRMS. During one year I applied to several volunteer positions based in my profile, I fullfill all the prerequisites and never was choosen for anyone, to bad lol. My only two volunteer experiences was at local chapter level and in both cases performing nothing that really contributes for my continuos improving, so in both cases I was doing something that really no one is interesting in doing, nevertheless I had no problems in giving my time to help the local chapter, but I am disappointed because I expected so much more, I am not seeing opportunities.For instance in this moment I doing volunteer work to Scrum Alliance as article submission reviewer and I am leaning so much, never had this opportunity in PMI.
Alexandre
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Alexandre CostaScrum Master| Integer Consulting - Pictet technologiesLoures, Portugal
Mar 01, 2020 9:31 AM
Replying to Sergio Luis Conte
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I do not agree the voluntary opportunities are for reputed members. At least, in my case, I am suscribed to PMI´s VRMS sytem then I received information about of lot of different possiblities then I applied to those I think are interesting because help me in my process of continue improvement but mainly because help me to contribute to the discipline. About the number of samples, as a person trained into mathematics and statistics field, I can not make a comment on that because I do not have enough information to calculate if the number of samples are right of not.
Reputed is a polite way to say experienced members, nevertheless I only can talk of my experience with VRMS. During one year I applied to several volunteer positions based in my profile, I fullfill all the prerequisites and never was choosen for anyone, to bad lol. My only two volunteer experiences was at local chapter level and in both cases performing nothing that really contributes for my continuos improving, so in both cases I was doing something that really no one is interesting in doing, nevertheless I had no problems in giving my time to help the local chapter, but I am disappointed because I expected so much more, I am not seeing opportunities.For instance in this moment I doing volunteer work to Scrum Alliance as article submission reviewer and I am leaning so much, never had this opportunity in PMI.
Alexandre
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1 reply by Sergio Luis Conte
Mar 01, 2020 10:28 AM
Sergio Luis Conte
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I applied to lot of opportunities too. Most of them I was rejected. No problem with that, at least for me. Perhaps my mistake is not asking why if I fullfil the stated requirements (in some of them I exceed them). At the end, perhaps is a matter of expectations, as everything in project management....
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Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
Reputed is a polite way to say experienced members, nevertheless I only can talk of my experience with VRMS. During one year I applied to several volunteer positions based in my profile, I fullfill all the prerequisites and never was choosen for anyone, to bad lol. My only two volunteer experiences was at local chapter level and in both cases performing nothing that really contributes for my continuos improving, so in both cases I was doing something that really no one is interesting in doing, nevertheless I had no problems in giving my time to help the local chapter, but I am disappointed because I expected so much more, I am not seeing opportunities.For instance in this moment I doing volunteer work to Scrum Alliance as article submission reviewer and I am leaning so much, never had this opportunity in PMI.
Alexandre
I applied to lot of opportunities too. Most of them I was rejected. No problem with that, at least for me. Perhaps my mistake is not asking why if I fullfil the stated requirements (in some of them I exceed them). At the end, perhaps is a matter of expectations, as everything in project management....
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1 reply by Alexandre Costa
Mar 01, 2020 10:37 AM
Alexandre Costa
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Probably you are right I am expecting to much.
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Alexandre CostaScrum Master| Integer Consulting - Pictet technologiesLoures, Portugal
Mar 01, 2020 10:28 AM
Replying to Sergio Luis Conte
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I applied to lot of opportunities too. Most of them I was rejected. No problem with that, at least for me. Perhaps my mistake is not asking why if I fullfil the stated requirements (in some of them I exceed them). At the end, perhaps is a matter of expectations, as everything in project management....
Probably you are right I am expecting to much.
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1 reply by Sergio Luis Conte
Mar 01, 2020 10:57 AM
Sergio Luis Conte
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At the end the PMI is a business and they will keep the business running. And I am not using the term "business" pejoratively. For example, before they got DA nobody talk about DA inside the PMI. Now, everything is DA or nothing for the PMI including it can be attempt with other things like PMI-ACP. I am sad with that because for me DA is one of the most valuable things that have been created inside the Agile world. I am working with that from the very begining. Lot of examples can be find in lot of situations. One of them I had the opportunity to participate from the begining was with the bussiness analyst role. While there was a lot of collision promote by the PMI itself between role definitions. But those type of things are because I always apply to positions were I understood I can add value taking the risk that I can be rejected or my comments will be not accpeted when I work into the team.