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MAHMOUD AHMED ALI AHMED NASR Project Manager| ABB Bani Suef, Egypt, Egypt
If you have promoted to be a project manager in your company then for any reason at the world your company decided to de-promote you to your past position again after around one year of working with your new position, do you accept or refuse?!
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Alexandre Costa Scrum Master| Integer Consulting - Pictet technologies Loures, Portugal
Mahmoud,

This is a very personal decision, there are no individual common practices in this situation and also all depends of the context and of the personality of the impacted person.

I can only speak for my self, in that particular case probably depending of the environment of the organization, without an explanation or a future career plan or any kind of motivation measure return to the previous position it is kind of stigma, so to the sake of the company environment and to sake of my pride i would refuse such demotion.

Here the weight of the reason and emotion of each person, of their financial or family needs would play a lot and in the end the one that has more weight prevails because in theory the first thought that comes to mind is to refuse.

Alexandre
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Sergio Luis Conte Helping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based Organizations Buenos Aires, Argentina
Uou! Great question. It is hard to answer without context. If when you say "promote" it meant to get a better position than before from the point of view of personal and work benefits and today the situation goes back then I quit the company. But I will quit in the moment is the best situation for me.
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Kiron Bondale Retired | Mentor| Retired Welland, Ontario, Canada
Mahmoud -

As Alexandre & Sergio have stated, this is absolutely an "It depends" question.

However, if refusing means you will need to look for a new job, then you need to weigh the costs of staying put with the costs of finding a new role.

From a principles-perspective, if you feel the demotion was unjustified then you may be able to pursue this through your company's HR department or via legal channels, but it may not be a clear cut case so it could get messy.

At minimum, seek to understand why this happened and whether it just happened to you or whether others are similarly impacted.

Kiron
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Anton Oosthuizen Senior Business Analyst / Project Manager| Self Employed Pretoria, Gauteng, South Africa
So many factors that could influence your decision.....

Was a reason given?

Did any conversation take place?

What is the definition of promote/demote here? A person could be promoted in the sense that they inherit more senior duties without a title and vice versa. So was the demotion from e.g. Program Manager to Project Manager?

Was the promotion permanent or an acting role?

Was the promotion done with a probation period condition?
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MANSOUR THABET ALQUBATY System Controller| Teleyemen Sana'A, N/A, Yemen
I agree with all.
Some questions to be answered before.
Also it depends on origination's maturity (OPM) (5 phases).
BR,
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Vincent Guerard Coach - Trainer - Speaker - Advisor| Freelance Mont-Royal, Quebec, Canada
Mahmoud,

Certainly a personal decision. I would try to understand the reasons or seek some understanding.

From that understanding, you might make a better choice for you.
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Graham Hanscombe Senior Project Manager Hornchurch, United Kingdom
Yes, I agree with Mahmoud's sentiments.

There are other things to consider.
- one thing I would not accept is a salary reduction (not role). As I am sure they will want to carry this out, it is an HR topic
- if they are not happy with your performance and before they demote you, they have to put you on a PIP (performance improvement plan)

In saying that, it happened to me too a while ago, when I moved from the "service manager ladder to project management". It was the only way I could make the move, so had to initially take a paycut... but left in a year after gaining the experience and going contracting - to earn twice as much!
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Stéphane Parent Self Employed / Semi-retired| Leader Maker Prince Edward Island, Canada
The path to experience and fulfillment is not always straight nor upwards.
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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Mahmoud

This is certainly an odd situation and to be able to weigh-in properly, it would be helpful if you could elaborate on their rationale behind this decision.

Ive seen this happen when a bigger company acquires a smaller one then some posts gets eliminated from the organization. Is this the reason or is it performance related ?

At the end of the day, you have the weigh the pros and cons and take a decision.

RK
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Riad Alhammoud Project management| Langan Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates
Personal decision.
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