I am preparing for PgMP certification since last 4 months but up to now i am not getting any clear picture of program management framework. Can anyone share a good text book or any other resource which is easy to understand the program management framework.
Thomas WalentaGlobal Project Economy ExpertHackenheim, Germany
Tahir,
I recommend to attend a bootcamp or workshop, they normally come with a handbook and also explain it. I do not put any names in the forum though.
In terms of a text book, I used several, e.g. by Jean Grouix, Ginger Levin and Paul Sanghera.
It is true that the framework is confusing, especially as there are some discrepancies between ECO and Standard. Learning ECO is of upmost importance. In my case it took me about 500 hours to prepare, 6+ months.
Good luck.
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1 reply by Tahir Saeed Maqbool
Apr 22, 2020 5:48 AM
Tahir Saeed Maqbool
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Thank you so much sir.
If you have any preparation material may you please send me on
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I recommend to attend a bootcamp or workshop, they normally come with a handbook and also explain it. I do not put any names in the forum though.
In terms of a text book, I used several, e.g. by Jean Grouix, Ginger Levin and Paul Sanghera.
It is true that the framework is confusing, especially as there are some discrepancies between ECO and Standard. Learning ECO is of upmost importance. In my case it took me about 500 hours to prepare, 6+ months.
Good luck.
Thank you so much sir.
If you have any preparation material may you please send me on
[email protected] Saving Changes...
Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
And you will not have ones. Just to comment, I was part of the group of authors and reviewers of the standard. But unfortunatelly it still lack of a clear distiction with the PMBOK. The same for portfolio. So, put your focus on content outline and read and understand the program standard as is.
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1 reply by Tahir Saeed Maqbool
Apr 22, 2020 8:01 AM
Tahir Saeed Maqbool
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After knowing more about PgMP certification and standard, i am confuse either i have to pursue it further or not. Because i am not seeing any clear benefits of this certification. What do you suggest?
I am totally confuse...
And you will not have ones. Just to comment, I was part of the group of authors and reviewers of the standard. But unfortunatelly it still lack of a clear distiction with the PMBOK. The same for portfolio. So, put your focus on content outline and read and understand the program standard as is.
After knowing more about PgMP certification and standard, i am confuse either i have to pursue it further or not. Because i am not seeing any clear benefits of this certification. What do you suggest?
I am totally confuse...
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3 replies by Kiron Bondale, Sergio Luis Conte, and Tahir Saeed Maqbool
Apr 22, 2020 8:08 AM
Kiron Bondale
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Tahir -
Better late than never - always start with WHY you want to pursue a particular certification.
I've not seen any job postings in North America which specifically reference the PgMP - things may be different in Pakistan. Nor have I seen PMI or anyone else publish data showing that program managers holding a PgMP make more money than those that don't.
Unlike climbing mountains, just because "it's there" is not a good reason to attain a certification, otherwise they just become vanity metrics.
Kiron
Apr 23, 2020 6:05 AM
Sergio Luis Conte
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My personal situation: my actual work place pay me the certification fees because I am Senior Program Manager. No matter that I say no because this certification has no value for me. In my personal opinion has no value at all because both standards (program and portfolio) has not value, sustance and consistence. Because I like to change it is the reason I was part of the group of authors and reviewers in the last two versions. Because it is a group and there is a core group that took the decision most of my sugestions has been accepted but lot of others no. No problem, I will continue participating. PMI had plans in the past to eliminate program and portfolio management certification in the same way they eliminated the OPM related certification. BUT what I do to decide investing time and money in getting a certification is making my own estimation on future market demands. Then I decide go or no go for it.
After knowing more about PgMP certification and standard, i am confuse either i have to pursue it further or not. Because i am not seeing any clear benefits of this certification. What do you suggest?
I am totally confuse...
Tahir -
Better late than never - always start with WHY you want to pursue a particular certification.
I've not seen any job postings in North America which specifically reference the PgMP - things may be different in Pakistan. Nor have I seen PMI or anyone else publish data showing that program managers holding a PgMP make more money than those that don't.
Unlike climbing mountains, just because "it's there" is not a good reason to attain a certification, otherwise they just become vanity metrics.
Kiron
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1 reply by Tahir Saeed Maqbool
Apr 23, 2020 1:03 AM
Tahir Saeed Maqbool
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Sir,
You are very right that always start with WHY you want to pursue a particular certification.
My goal was matching with this certification but how i will achieve it is ambiguous.
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Tahir
I agree with Kiron. It is not very well known globally, yet, so if you want to pursue it, you need to be mindful not to raise your expectations.
I am debating myself whether to pursue it or not. I might at some point because I manage programs and portfolios.
In your case, I advice you to look Agile even if you are managing programs. Agile is the future, at least in my opinion.
Good Luck.
RK
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1 reply by Tahir Saeed Maqbool
Apr 23, 2020 1:06 AM
Tahir Saeed Maqbool
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Sir,
Thanks for your valuable suggestion but will it help me in construction field? because people say that it's beneficial only for the IT field in terms of management not monetary.
Thanks.
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Thomas WalentaGlobal Project Economy ExpertHackenheim, Germany
Tahir,
as my colleagues said, it is always good to understand your motivation.
There are - after 10 years - about 3100 PgMPs in the world, slowly growing. Some research indicates it is the most difficult and also most reliable PMI certification. It is a high hurdle.
I did it in 2014 after retirement and it took me about 500 hours and 6 months to prepare. I also had 12 years as acting program manager at IBM. I learned and understood a lot from the preparation, even with the experience. So for me it indeed it was a mountain to climb. It gave me more reputation, more self confidence and a wider view on the project economy. With all of these came engagements.
Program management is inherently agile, as the goal is to deliver benefits which in turn help the organization to create value. It includes a part that permanently aligns the program to changes in strategy, so you need to be adaptive.
If you are looking to increase your salary, there is no evidence that this will happen as a direct effect. Program management is deeply different from project management, in mindset and ways of working, and not many organizations understand this yet. PMI helped the US federal government to develop legislation in the field of project management, called PMIAA. It standardizes the program management profession for federal government.
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1 reply by Tahir Saeed Maqbool
Apr 23, 2020 12:55 AM
Tahir Saeed Maqbool
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Sir,
I agree with you that program management align the program' goals to the organization's goals during its whole life cycle unlike project management which focuses only on triple constraints and assumes project will be successful if it meets the triple constraints and vice versa.But the way PgMP standard explains how its going to be happen is not making sense. While studying i feel that there is no clear border between Program and Project management framework, just by changing the phases names we can't make a new standard.The vision of this standard is good but the way how we going to achieve it is vague.
And my motivation to pursue this certification is only to improve my management skills in the domain of Programs as my company is managing multiple projects and we are facing problems which can be solve by program management but without a clear picture of standard it's impossible.
as my colleagues said, it is always good to understand your motivation.
There are - after 10 years - about 3100 PgMPs in the world, slowly growing. Some research indicates it is the most difficult and also most reliable PMI certification. It is a high hurdle.
I did it in 2014 after retirement and it took me about 500 hours and 6 months to prepare. I also had 12 years as acting program manager at IBM. I learned and understood a lot from the preparation, even with the experience. So for me it indeed it was a mountain to climb. It gave me more reputation, more self confidence and a wider view on the project economy. With all of these came engagements.
Program management is inherently agile, as the goal is to deliver benefits which in turn help the organization to create value. It includes a part that permanently aligns the program to changes in strategy, so you need to be adaptive.
If you are looking to increase your salary, there is no evidence that this will happen as a direct effect. Program management is deeply different from project management, in mindset and ways of working, and not many organizations understand this yet. PMI helped the US federal government to develop legislation in the field of project management, called PMIAA. It standardizes the program management profession for federal government.
Sir,
I agree with you that program management align the program' goals to the organization's goals during its whole life cycle unlike project management which focuses only on triple constraints and assumes project will be successful if it meets the triple constraints and vice versa.But the way PgMP standard explains how its going to be happen is not making sense. While studying i feel that there is no clear border between Program and Project management framework, just by changing the phases names we can't make a new standard.The vision of this standard is good but the way how we going to achieve it is vague.
And my motivation to pursue this certification is only to improve my management skills in the domain of Programs as my company is managing multiple projects and we are facing problems which can be solve by program management but without a clear picture of standard it's impossible.
Better late than never - always start with WHY you want to pursue a particular certification.
I've not seen any job postings in North America which specifically reference the PgMP - things may be different in Pakistan. Nor have I seen PMI or anyone else publish data showing that program managers holding a PgMP make more money than those that don't.
Unlike climbing mountains, just because "it's there" is not a good reason to attain a certification, otherwise they just become vanity metrics.
Kiron
Sir,
You are very right that always start with WHY you want to pursue a particular certification.
My goal was matching with this certification but how i will achieve it is ambiguous.
I agree with Kiron. It is not very well known globally, yet, so if you want to pursue it, you need to be mindful not to raise your expectations.
I am debating myself whether to pursue it or not. I might at some point because I manage programs and portfolios.
In your case, I advice you to look Agile even if you are managing programs. Agile is the future, at least in my opinion.
Good Luck.
RK
Sir,
Thanks for your valuable suggestion but will it help me in construction field? because people say that it's beneficial only for the IT field in terms of management not monetary.
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