Medical Devices Industry: PM valued for Management or Technical skills
Abel FerrandezDirector Program Management| LonzaBasel, Bl, Switzerland
Dear community.
I'd love to hear experiences from colleagues working in the Medical Device industry, and how you feel valuated within your organization. To be more specific, do you feel the organization values you more for your technological/engineering skills or for your people/team management skills?
I do understand both are important, is nevertheless my believe that the function of a project manager should lean more towards the management side of the balance.That is, while certain level of technical knowledge is required to understand the needs of team members, that knowledge per-se won't keep projects on track.
More specifically, I'm interested in learning how you position/promote/brand yourself within your organization and to the outside world when seeking career advances.
Personally, I try to promote myself more on the management side than on the technical side. Is for me very frustrating to see how this is very confusing for most, who think of me as a technical person. While I do count with a technical background, I add value to my organization through management, not through engineering. This bias represents a big burden for career advance. I was wondering if someone has faced a similar experience.
Thanks in advance for any possible insight. Saving Changes...
Product Operations Program ManagerBarcelona, Cataluña, Spain
Dear Abel,
I worked in the past for a medical device company. I was assigned to a project together with another PM. At first I was surprised. We spoke to the sponsor and it became clear that I was the PM and the other person was the Technical Lead. Roles and Responsabilities were clearly defined and project went on smoohtly.
Another aspect is how you sell yourself. There is an interesting book from Coleman that describes the P.I.E. rule. In order to move forward in the organization, Performance accounts for 10%, Image for 30%, and Exposure 60%. Thus, regardless of your role, whether it is Technical PM, pure PM, or a mixture of both, if you take care to perform well but above all to make yourself visible, options to move up will come your way (according to the author).
Eduard
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1 reply by Abel Ferrandez
May 04, 2020 1:26 PM
Abel Ferrandez
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Thanks a lot for your feedback Edward, I'll most certainly look to read your recommendation.
I fully see how the exposure factor counts with such a high level of influence. In our case (as project managers) though, I would rather say exposure accounts probably even more than 60%. That is, performance is a given, without it there is no way forward in any case. Exposure drives image, you can't have one without the other.
In organizations were the role of the Project Manager is not perceived as a managerial role but a technical role, we further need to fight a bias which other functions would not, therefore exposure becomes likely the total determining factor.
That said, this is something you still can influence within your organization. Would you have any suggestion as to how filter out organizations with a deeper knowledge into the role of a project manager and appreciation for the managerial side of the role?
To be more specific. I see you work at a pharma organization now while you mentioned that you had experience in medical devices. Your transition from one industry to the other should have come from your managerial background more than your technical one I would presume. How did you approach it.
In my case I made the switch from the nutritional into the medical device industry following an opportunity which presented itself, but I can't hardly claim I had planned that switch. Also since I was lucky enough to end up in the hands of a great supervisor who precisely was looking for individuals with strong managerial skills, and not so concerned about technical aspects.
Say I'd be interested to find a role within a pharmaceutical organization without experience managing pharma projects. How would you search for an organization/supervisor with a managerial focus? Networking of course is a must, would there be anything else you think would point you to such type of organization?
I understand is probably not a straightforward question to answer, any advice would be welcome.
Thanks again for your inputs so far.
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Abel FerrandezDirector Program Management| LonzaBasel, Bl, Switzerland
May 04, 2020 9:41 AM
Replying to Eduard Hernandez
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Dear Abel,
I worked in the past for a medical device company. I was assigned to a project together with another PM. At first I was surprised. We spoke to the sponsor and it became clear that I was the PM and the other person was the Technical Lead. Roles and Responsabilities were clearly defined and project went on smoohtly.
Another aspect is how you sell yourself. There is an interesting book from Coleman that describes the P.I.E. rule. In order to move forward in the organization, Performance accounts for 10%, Image for 30%, and Exposure 60%. Thus, regardless of your role, whether it is Technical PM, pure PM, or a mixture of both, if you take care to perform well but above all to make yourself visible, options to move up will come your way (according to the author).
Eduard
Thanks a lot for your feedback Edward, I'll most certainly look to read your recommendation.
I fully see how the exposure factor counts with such a high level of influence. In our case (as project managers) though, I would rather say exposure accounts probably even more than 60%. That is, performance is a given, without it there is no way forward in any case. Exposure drives image, you can't have one without the other.
In organizations were the role of the Project Manager is not perceived as a managerial role but a technical role, we further need to fight a bias which other functions would not, therefore exposure becomes likely the total determining factor.
That said, this is something you still can influence within your organization. Would you have any suggestion as to how filter out organizations with a deeper knowledge into the role of a project manager and appreciation for the managerial side of the role?
To be more specific. I see you work at a pharma organization now while you mentioned that you had experience in medical devices. Your transition from one industry to the other should have come from your managerial background more than your technical one I would presume. How did you approach it.
In my case I made the switch from the nutritional into the medical device industry following an opportunity which presented itself, but I can't hardly claim I had planned that switch. Also since I was lucky enough to end up in the hands of a great supervisor who precisely was looking for individuals with strong managerial skills, and not so concerned about technical aspects.
Say I'd be interested to find a role within a pharmaceutical organization without experience managing pharma projects. How would you search for an organization/supervisor with a managerial focus? Networking of course is a must, would there be anything else you think would point you to such type of organization?
I understand is probably not a straightforward question to answer, any advice would be welcome.
Thanks again for your inputs so far. Saving Changes...
Bola AdesuyiDirector, Program Mgmt/Consultant| Duluth, Ga, United States
Eduard, In addition to the salient points made by Abel, I believe that organizational project management maturity also comes into play; that being largely determined by the level of experience and understanding of individuals in leadership positions.
If leadership knowledge of project management and the role of a Project Manager is limited, it would be a challenge to get them to see otherwise, if they're not open to learning. Saving Changes...
Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
I worked in the industry you stated in your post. But I understood that you are asking how to promote yourself. Project Mangement is a tactical activity, not strategical. If you like to go for some position more strategical you need to go for Business Analyst/BRM role. Those are talking about roles mainly if you like to go for standards related to their roles. But forget the roles. In my case, what helped me a lot to migrate from tactical/technical activities (no matter that I still pay attention to them each time I have the possibility do not loose "the timming" like in tennis) is: 1-like to do that. 2-understand the role related to create solutions (business analyst). To work in pre-sales helped me a lot on that. 3-study and certified to the role (the IIBA was the only organization at this time and I was part of it). 4-study a Master of Business Administration (MBA) seriously. By seriously I mean that I searched for a University where I have to make at least two years plus thesis.
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2 replies by Abel Ferrandez and Eduard Hernandez
Jun 12, 2020 9:39 AM
Eduard Hernandez
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Sergio, would you say that the transition from what you call tactical (PM) to strategic (BA) could be done without the sponsorhsip of someone in the strategic level team? How was it in your case?
Jun 12, 2020 9:49 AM
Abel Ferrandez
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Sergio, thanks for your comment. Indeed that is the line of advice I was looking. I understand you see formal education in combination to participation in projects closer to the area you are looking to move into as means to get advancement. Makes total sense.
Product Operations Program ManagerBarcelona, Cataluña, Spain
Jun 12, 2020 8:12 AM
Replying to Sergio Luis Conte
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I worked in the industry you stated in your post. But I understood that you are asking how to promote yourself. Project Mangement is a tactical activity, not strategical. If you like to go for some position more strategical you need to go for Business Analyst/BRM role. Those are talking about roles mainly if you like to go for standards related to their roles. But forget the roles. In my case, what helped me a lot to migrate from tactical/technical activities (no matter that I still pay attention to them each time I have the possibility do not loose "the timming" like in tennis) is: 1-like to do that. 2-understand the role related to create solutions (business analyst). To work in pre-sales helped me a lot on that. 3-study and certified to the role (the IIBA was the only organization at this time and I was part of it). 4-study a Master of Business Administration (MBA) seriously. By seriously I mean that I searched for a University where I have to make at least two years plus thesis.
Sergio, would you say that the transition from what you call tactical (PM) to strategic (BA) could be done without the sponsorhsip of someone in the strategic level team? How was it in your case?
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1 reply by Sergio Luis Conte
Jun 12, 2020 9:51 AM
Sergio Luis Conte
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Yes, you right. In my personal case, and just my personal case but something I have the opportunity to express, show and teach in places like Universities if the context allow it, I think there are two type of "entities" (because the same for persons and organizations): reactive and proactive. I firmly believe I have to behave like a proactive "entity". It does mean go for the opportunity and create the opportunity. Obviously I have to be prepare for taking it or for creating it. That´s my case in everything I do.
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Abel FerrandezDirector Program Management| LonzaBasel, Bl, Switzerland
Jun 12, 2020 8:12 AM
Replying to Sergio Luis Conte
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I worked in the industry you stated in your post. But I understood that you are asking how to promote yourself. Project Mangement is a tactical activity, not strategical. If you like to go for some position more strategical you need to go for Business Analyst/BRM role. Those are talking about roles mainly if you like to go for standards related to their roles. But forget the roles. In my case, what helped me a lot to migrate from tactical/technical activities (no matter that I still pay attention to them each time I have the possibility do not loose "the timming" like in tennis) is: 1-like to do that. 2-understand the role related to create solutions (business analyst). To work in pre-sales helped me a lot on that. 3-study and certified to the role (the IIBA was the only organization at this time and I was part of it). 4-study a Master of Business Administration (MBA) seriously. By seriously I mean that I searched for a University where I have to make at least two years plus thesis.
Sergio, thanks for your comment. Indeed that is the line of advice I was looking. I understand you see formal education in combination to participation in projects closer to the area you are looking to move into as means to get advancement. Makes total sense.
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1 reply by Sergio Luis Conte
Jun 12, 2020 9:59 AM
Sergio Luis Conte
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You are welcome. Yes, it is what I did and worked for me but because I am a researcher in some fields from long time ago (just because is my passion due to I earned a Ph.D when I was young) is what I see is working for others. My point is: if you have an objective make a plan and go for the objective. In the middle you know that some things will work and some other things not. Just an example: sometimes I resigned an excellent position (including money) to start working into other where I know I will get knowledge and expertise which will add value to get my objective. Obviously, as the wisdom said, "I am myself and my circumstance" so the circumstance could not allow to do that.
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Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
Jun 12, 2020 9:39 AM
Replying to Eduard Hernandez
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Sergio, would you say that the transition from what you call tactical (PM) to strategic (BA) could be done without the sponsorhsip of someone in the strategic level team? How was it in your case?
Yes, you right. In my personal case, and just my personal case but something I have the opportunity to express, show and teach in places like Universities if the context allow it, I think there are two type of "entities" (because the same for persons and organizations): reactive and proactive. I firmly believe I have to behave like a proactive "entity". It does mean go for the opportunity and create the opportunity. Obviously I have to be prepare for taking it or for creating it. That´s my case in everything I do.
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1 reply by Eduard Hernandez
Jun 15, 2020 3:46 AM
Eduard Hernandez
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Sergio, thanks for your input. Creating and pursuing the opportunity brings along an increase of visibility and exposure to colleagues and individuals higher up in the organizational structure. which could facilitate a promotion, a lateral move, or both.
I am happy to learn that the MBA had a positive effect on your career. As a matter of fact, I am starting an MBA focused on the Pharmaceutical industry, where I intend to develop the remaining of my professional career. I am planning to carry out the field work included in the MBA at my current employer, thereby aiming for a win-win situation.
Finally, I'd like to share the following view on professional growth and age group according to some business schools.
25-35: Establishment stage. Forming a dream.
35-55: Maintenance stage.Frustration when realization that reality does not measure up to dreams. Mid life crises is a myth, but this is the last chance to be oneself.
"To get promoted is not enough just to check the boxes and meet expectations. You need to make a contribution that moves the needle for the company. Something that is visible and meaningfully core to what drives the value". Quote from top executive.
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Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
Jun 12, 2020 9:49 AM
Replying to Abel Ferrandez
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Sergio, thanks for your comment. Indeed that is the line of advice I was looking. I understand you see formal education in combination to participation in projects closer to the area you are looking to move into as means to get advancement. Makes total sense.
You are welcome. Yes, it is what I did and worked for me but because I am a researcher in some fields from long time ago (just because is my passion due to I earned a Ph.D when I was young) is what I see is working for others. My point is: if you have an objective make a plan and go for the objective. In the middle you know that some things will work and some other things not. Just an example: sometimes I resigned an excellent position (including money) to start working into other where I know I will get knowledge and expertise which will add value to get my objective. Obviously, as the wisdom said, "I am myself and my circumstance" so the circumstance could not allow to do that. Saving Changes...
I am sorry I have absolutely no experience in this industry but as a general rule in any domain you can't separate management from the technical aspects.
For example an engineering manager no matter in which industry he works must be a subjects matter expert in engineering. Such a manager would always going to be seen as SME in his domain by other people including by senior managers.
Generic management without a technical context for me it makes no sense. Management and leadership in general must have a technical context. Saving Changes...
Abel FerrandezDirector Program Management| LonzaBasel, Bl, Switzerland
Hi Adrian
A typical project team under my lead includes competences in areas such engineering, clinical, medical, legal, IP, procurement, regulatory affairs, marketing, training and education and sales. I count with high level expertise in all but I hardly can be an SME in everything. In previous jobs I managed projects with a higher focus on the scientific side in the chemical industry, but my managerial scope was more narrow down to creating the product only, nothing else. In my current role my expertise is team management, planning, budgeting, stakeholder management, reporting.
Depending on what is in scope of what is to be managed, there’s no need to be SME on any particular competence. I’m molecular biologist by education, and have managed projects in nutrition, cardiovascular IVD and dental implants. Most of my colleagues are not engineers while our work relates to engineering at is scientific core.
Moving from one industry to another requires some adaptation, each count with different particulars specially related to science and regulatory affairs, but those can be learned to a level enabling understanding of requirements to make use the basic principles of project management efficient.
That said, the more you know the higher the chances for you to be able to contribute faster, probably would take an unrealistic effort to ever manage a construction project, for example. But, anything in the context of life sciences, you bet. Saving Changes...