The purpose of lessons learned is to bring together any insights gained during a project that can be usefully applied on future projects. When should a project manager ideally commence this activity?
Samir AlamProject Management Consultant| SECDammam, Dammam, Saudi Arabia
A. At the start of project planning B. At the start of project execution C. During the project closure D. From project kickoff meeting
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Thomas WalentaGlobal Project Economy ExpertHackenheim, Germany
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You should gather insights from the beginning and continuously, a journal is a good way doing that. If you run into insights that you deem worthwhile sharing with other projects, do it immediately (or you might forget about them).
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1 reply by Samir Alam
May 14, 2020 12:30 PM
Samir Alam
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But in the source right answer is given option D, see the explanation below.
Manage Project Knowledge is the process of using existing
knowledge and creating new knowledge to achieve the project's
objectives and contribute to organizational learning. This process is
performed throughout the project. [PMBOK 6th edition, Page 98]
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Samir AlamProject Management Consultant| SECDammam, Dammam, Saudi Arabia
But in the source right answer is given option D, see the explanation below.
Manage Project Knowledge is the process of using existing knowledge and creating new knowledge to achieve the project's objectives and contribute to organizational learning. This process is performed throughout the project. [PMBOK 6th edition, Page 98] Saving Changes...
Samir AlamProject Management Consultant| SECDammam, Dammam, Saudi Arabia
May 14, 2020 12:19 PM
Replying to Thomas Walenta
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You should gather insights from the beginning and continuously, a journal is a good way doing that. If you run into insights that you deem worthwhile sharing with other projects, do it immediately (or you might forget about them).
But in the source right answer is given option D, see the explanation below.
Manage Project Knowledge is the process of using existing
knowledge and creating new knowledge to achieve the project's
objectives and contribute to organizational learning. This process is
performed throughout the project. [PMBOK 6th edition, Page 98]
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1 reply by Thomas Walenta
May 14, 2020 12:43 PM
Thomas Walenta
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‘Throughout the project’ for me is from the earliest point. I see the kickoff meeting rather at the end of the first planning round (you have to plan for the kickoff, the team etc).
I would tend to agree with Thomas over the PMBOK answer. Project planning starts prior to the kickoff. Having a kickoff without any prior planning would not be particularly productive. It would simply demonstrate to a number of somewhat randomly chosen people that the PM has no strategic plan. Saving Changes...
Thomas WalentaGlobal Project Economy ExpertHackenheim, Germany
May 14, 2020 12:30 PM
Replying to Samir Alam
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But in the source right answer is given option D, see the explanation below.
Manage Project Knowledge is the process of using existing
knowledge and creating new knowledge to achieve the project's
objectives and contribute to organizational learning. This process is
performed throughout the project. [PMBOK 6th edition, Page 98]
‘Throughout the project’ for me is from the earliest point. I see the kickoff meeting rather at the end of the first planning round (you have to plan for the kickoff, the team etc). Saving Changes...
"Lessons learned" is an oxymoron. They haven't been learned if you haven't applied them to gain a benefit. Eschew them entirely in favor of short learning feedback loops and a culture of knowledge sharing.
I'll get off my soapbox now :-)
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Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
Right answer is D in the spirit of the PMI is you are preparing for the exam. If you are not preparing for the exam, I go for @Kiron answer. In fact, I pushed and I was the leader to create a knolwedge management system in the place I work to sustain this line of thinking.
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1 reply by Samir Alam
May 14, 2020 5:31 PM
Samir Alam
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Can you please elaborate more why option D is right answer.
Option A (At the start of project planning) is the earliest activity among all four options, so considering the fact that lesion learn should capture through the project, why cannot we choose option A as right answer over option D - (From project kickoff meeting).
Because kick off meeting happens after the planning and before executing phase.
For me Kickoff means the first time the team is brought together and that first meeting would be the formal beginning of planning, i.e. Team comes before plan, not plan before team. So I agree with Thomas.
I also agree with Kiron, being able to adapt matters more than trying to learn lessons. To me, the wording of the question suggests a failure to do that - you ought to be learning things that you apply on the *current* project, not only future projects!
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1 reply by Sergio Luis Conte
May 14, 2020 2:50 PM
Sergio Luis Conte
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Just to comment because your post is very interesting. One of the keys do not fail in PMP certification exam is to understand that is not about what you think or do. Is about what the PMI expect as an answer in the context of the PMBOK:
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Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
May 14, 2020 1:20 PM
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For me Kickoff means the first time the team is brought together and that first meeting would be the formal beginning of planning, i.e. Team comes before plan, not plan before team. So I agree with Thomas.
I also agree with Kiron, being able to adapt matters more than trying to learn lessons. To me, the wording of the question suggests a failure to do that - you ought to be learning things that you apply on the *current* project, not only future projects!
Just to comment because your post is very interesting. One of the keys do not fail in PMP certification exam is to understand that is not about what you think or do. Is about what the PMI expect as an answer in the context of the PMBOK: Saving Changes...
Samir AlamProject Management Consultant| SECDammam, Dammam, Saudi Arabia
May 14, 2020 1:19 PM
Replying to Sergio Luis Conte
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Right answer is D in the spirit of the PMI is you are preparing for the exam. If you are not preparing for the exam, I go for @Kiron answer. In fact, I pushed and I was the leader to create a knolwedge management system in the place I work to sustain this line of thinking.
Can you please elaborate more why option D is right answer.
Option A (At the start of project planning) is the earliest activity among all four options, so considering the fact that lesion learn should capture through the project, why cannot we choose option A as right answer over option D - (From project kickoff meeting).
Because kick off meeting happens after the planning and before executing phase.
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1 reply by Sergio Luis Conte
May 14, 2020 7:51 PM
Sergio Luis Conte
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The question is about Lessons Learned on the current project. Lessons Learned for the current project are collected while the current project is in execution phase. The first activity at project execution is project kickoff. If projects are small in size then the PMBOK said that kickoff could be performed at initiation as the first activity in the planning process group then in this case D prevails on A. At the start of project execution the first activity is project kickoff then D prevails on B. As you know as the PMI stated getting lesssons learned as project close is considering a "bad" practice so C must not be consider as a valid answer.
