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Kiron Bondale Retired | Mentor| Retired Welland, Ontario, Canada
Folks -

hot of the presses is the new PMP Handbook: https://www.pmi.org/-/media/pmi/documents/...b6-47551ada1148

One of the biggest changes in it (aligning with the new application form) is they've dropped any mention of 4500/7500 hours of experience and are only focusing on (duration) months of experience.

They have also added a third category in the prerequisites section, giving preferential treatment to those with a "Bachelor's or post-graduate degree from a GAC accredited program (bachelor’s degree or master's or global equivalent)"

Thoughts on the changes?
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Mohit Joshi Germantown, Tn, United States
Hi Kiron,

Thanks for sharing the handbook.

I do see the mention of 4500/7500 hours on page 9 of the handbook under the "PMP Eligibility Requirements" section. But yes, on page 11, the focus seems to be capturing experience in months. A little confusing but it should be easier to capture the experience in months than hours.

-- Mohit
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1 reply by Kiron Bondale
Jun 19, 2020 7:41 AM
Kiron Bondale
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Sorry Mohit - I updated the link as I had provided an incorrect link yesterday. Check this one out - no mention of the 4500/7500 hours...
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Mushtaq Abdulrahimzai SWIS| Surrey Schools District 36 Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Thank You, Kiron, for sharing the handbook.
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Kiron Bondale Retired | Mentor| Retired Welland, Ontario, Canada
Jun 19, 2020 12:06 AM
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Hi Kiron,

Thanks for sharing the handbook.

I do see the mention of 4500/7500 hours on page 9 of the handbook under the "PMP Eligibility Requirements" section. But yes, on page 11, the focus seems to be capturing experience in months. A little confusing but it should be easier to capture the experience in months than hours.

-- Mohit
Sorry Mohit - I updated the link as I had provided an incorrect link yesterday. Check this one out - no mention of the 4500/7500 hours...
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Mohit Joshi Germantown, Tn, United States
Oh yes, now I see it. Interesting. Thanks Kiron.

I think while it might be easier to update the experience in months (than hours), I am not too sure if it is a good idea to substitute "experience" with a graduate degree in project management....

Using the GAC course work to fulfill the 35 education contact hour requirement should still be fine since it gives you the foundation knowledge but I am not a fan of giving 12 months credit towards work experience.....work experience can't be substituted for education.

-- Mohit
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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Kiron

Thanks for sharing this.

Removing the hours is a good move. Number of months makes more sense to me.

As for the recognition of GAC, I don’t know much about them but I know they are an accreditation body for Project Management and if so, that is a good addition too.

RK
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Jun 19, 2020 11:39 AM
Kiron Bondale
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I'm skeptical, Rami, as someone might have worked only a fraction of the time over those months as a "part-time" PM and hence it does feel that the entry criteria have been relaxed...
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Kiron Bondale Retired | Mentor| Retired Welland, Ontario, Canada
Jun 19, 2020 10:27 AM
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Kiron

Thanks for sharing this.

Removing the hours is a good move. Number of months makes more sense to me.

As for the recognition of GAC, I don’t know much about them but I know they are an accreditation body for Project Management and if so, that is a good addition too.

RK
I'm skeptical, Rami, as someone might have worked only a fraction of the time over those months as a "part-time" PM and hence it does feel that the entry criteria have been relaxed...
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Jun 19, 2020 11:42 AM
Rami Kaibni
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Kiron

I am not sure I follow. Can you elaborate ?

RK
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Rami Kaibni
Community Champion
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Jun 19, 2020 11:39 AM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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I'm skeptical, Rami, as someone might have worked only a fraction of the time over those months as a "part-time" PM and hence it does feel that the entry criteria have been relaxed...
Kiron

I am not sure I follow. Can you elaborate ?

RK
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1 reply by Kiron Bondale
Jun 19, 2020 1:30 PM
Kiron Bondale
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Sure - they are only checking for months of experience over a span of time. They are not looking at effort spent. As such, I could have been a part-time PM over a 36 month period of time at 5% and still submit my application. This would be significantly less than the previous 4500 hour requirement.

Kiron
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Jonathan Lee Business Development Manager| Symphony Communication Services LLC Singapore, Singapore, Singapore
Nice! Thank you for sharing.
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Kiron Bondale Retired | Mentor| Retired Welland, Ontario, Canada
Jun 19, 2020 11:42 AM
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Kiron

I am not sure I follow. Can you elaborate ?

RK
Sure - they are only checking for months of experience over a span of time. They are not looking at effort spent. As such, I could have been a part-time PM over a 36 month period of time at 5% and still submit my application. This would be significantly less than the previous 4500 hour requirement.

Kiron
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2 replies by Rami Kaibni and Soha Karjawally
Jun 19, 2020 2:32 PM
Rami Kaibni
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Kiron

Giot it, I didn't think about it in this fashion but yes, you are absolutely right.

RK
Jun 23, 2020 12:56 AM
Soha Karjawally
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For the overlapping projects, in my opinion, it makes sense, but not for the other projects without overlap (please see Project 3 on page 7 on the doc).
Are we becoming more profit-oriented than qualification/quality oriented?
Would the organizations trust new certified PMs?
I hope our certification will not lose value.
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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Jun 19, 2020 1:30 PM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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Sure - they are only checking for months of experience over a span of time. They are not looking at effort spent. As such, I could have been a part-time PM over a 36 month period of time at 5% and still submit my application. This would be significantly less than the previous 4500 hour requirement.

Kiron
Kiron

Giot it, I didn't think about it in this fashion but yes, you are absolutely right.

RK
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