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Scrum, Kanban, and Scrumban.

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Marcus Udokang Project Manager| Aivaz Consulting Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Anyone have experience with Scrumban? Would like to hear your experiences, the good, the bad and the ugly. Upon experiencing Scrumban, did you revert back to Scrum, did Kanban work better?
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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
In fact, I find Kanban complements Scrum in a very good way. Check the Scrum with Kanban guide by Scrum.org
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Marcus Udokang Project Manager| Aivaz Consulting Calgary, Alberta, Canada
@Rami, many thanks.
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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Unless there is a comment that I can’t see then It’s Rami, not Kiron. I haven’t changed my name yet :-)
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Jun 27, 2020 2:28 PM
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Yes, my bad. Apologies. I made the correction, then a few minutes later noticed your second comment.
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Marcus Udokang Project Manager| Aivaz Consulting Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Jun 27, 2020 1:37 PM
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Unless there is a comment that I can’t see then It’s Rami, not Kiron. I haven’t changed my name yet :-)
Yes, my bad. Apologies. I made the correction, then a few minutes later noticed your second comment.
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Jun 27, 2020 2:29 PM
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No worries Marcus, Cheers
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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Jun 27, 2020 2:28 PM
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Yes, my bad. Apologies. I made the correction, then a few minutes later noticed your second comment.
No worries Marcus, Cheers
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Sergio Luis Conte Helping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based Organizations Buenos Aires, Argentina
There is a big mistake in the use of things like Scrumban. My recommendation is to avoid it. Why? Scrum is one and only one at it is stated inside the Scrum Guide. Scrum is a framework and this is the power because you can fill it up in the way best fit for you current situation. There is no line inside Scrum about you have to use things like user stories, story points, kanban boards, etc. On the other side, Kanban is a full system where system is not a software system. With all this into account fill Scrum in the way best fit for creating the solution. About Kanban, if you are working inside a manufacturing company, go to the factory and I am pretty sure you will see Kanban in action.
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Kiron Bondale Retired | Mentor| Retired Welland, Ontario, Canada
Marcus -

Scrumban is NOT a single method or approach. Rather it is an attempt to leverage good practices from both taking into account the context of your team or need.

Ajay Reddy's book on Scrumban is worth reading - you may not decide to adopt it fully, but there might be ideas within it which are worth incorporating.

Kiron
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Marcus Udokang Project Manager| Aivaz Consulting Calgary, Alberta, Canada
@Sergio, I have heard of Scrumban being used as path or transition phase while changing from Scrum to Kanban. Though it sounds like you are suggesting it should be either Scrum or Kanban, and that a transition phase is not necessary.

@Kiron, I've certainly heard of Scrumban also being used to leverage good practices from both Scrum and Kanban. I suppose it would depend on the industry where this might work well.

Marcus
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Jun 28, 2020 3:07 PM
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What I am saying and what everybody that have used both in the reality is: both are totally different things. Scrum and Kanban are totally different things. Scrumban is one of lot of buzzwords people have invented.
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Sergio Luis Conte Helping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based Organizations Buenos Aires, Argentina
Jun 28, 2020 1:00 PM
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@Sergio, I have heard of Scrumban being used as path or transition phase while changing from Scrum to Kanban. Though it sounds like you are suggesting it should be either Scrum or Kanban, and that a transition phase is not necessary.

@Kiron, I've certainly heard of Scrumban also being used to leverage good practices from both Scrum and Kanban. I suppose it would depend on the industry where this might work well.

Marcus
What I am saying and what everybody that have used both in the reality is: both are totally different things. Scrum and Kanban are totally different things. Scrumban is one of lot of buzzwords people have invented.
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Marcus Udokang Project Manager| Aivaz Consulting Calgary, Alberta, Canada
@Sergio, I hear you on that. They are buzzwords, indeed.

Marcus

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