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Tammy Hansen Riveton, Ut, United States
Hello, I have a stakeholder question. From what I understand as I study for my PMP exam we are identifying stakeholders in the Charter. Example If the charter the first place you look if we are coming into the project already in the process then why is there an Identify stakeholder process where we are identifying the stakeholders and their interests? I know this sounds basic, but I want to understand this better.
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Keith Novak Tukwila, Wa, United States
Many of the process groups must be revisited over time. You may have identified stakeholders during the charter, but as your knowledge of project increases over time, you may identify more stakeholders. For example, as the project is in work, you discover an applicable regulatory requirement not known at the beginning. The regulatory agency is now a stakeholder.
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Jul 23, 2020 5:45 PM
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Thank you for your reply. I should have thought of that. I appreciate your comment.
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VerĂ³nica Elizabeth Pozo Ruiz RYLAI Access Control Quito, Pichincha, Ecuador
In the development of Charter, we only identify main stakeholders. Later, in the identify stakeholder process, we perform a complete search to collect the information of all persons involved in the project. In projects with large number of stakeholders, it's recommendable to classify them in an adequate manner. That will help us to develop managing strategies properly.
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Jul 23, 2020 5:47 PM
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Thank you for your reply. I now understand what how to answer the exam questions.
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Tammy Hansen Riveton, Ut, United States
Jul 23, 2020 3:13 PM
Replying to Keith Novak
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Many of the process groups must be revisited over time. You may have identified stakeholders during the charter, but as your knowledge of project increases over time, you may identify more stakeholders. For example, as the project is in work, you discover an applicable regulatory requirement not known at the beginning. The regulatory agency is now a stakeholder.
Thank you for your reply. I should have thought of that. I appreciate your comment.
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Tammy Hansen Riveton, Ut, United States
Jul 23, 2020 4:24 PM
Replying to VerĂ³nica Elizabeth Pozo Ruiz
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In the development of Charter, we only identify main stakeholders. Later, in the identify stakeholder process, we perform a complete search to collect the information of all persons involved in the project. In projects with large number of stakeholders, it's recommendable to classify them in an adequate manner. That will help us to develop managing strategies properly.
Thank you for your reply. I now understand what how to answer the exam questions.
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Sergio Luis Conte Helping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based Organizations Buenos Aires, Argentina
Just to comment, if you are preparing for the exam then take into account that you have to answer what the PMI expect as an answer in the framework of the PMBOK. With that said, the basement to answer the questions is the Content Outline document. See that the point where all related to stakeholders takes place.
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Abolfazl Yousefi Darestani Manager, Quality and Continuous Improvement| Hörmann-TNR Industrial Doors Newmarket, Ontario, Canada
Veronica made good points.
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Traian Micu Project Coordinator| Maintenance Partners Antwerpen, Van, Belgium
You received some good replies.

My 2 cents regarding what helped me understand the perceived redundancies better while I was studying:

- In the project charter, we define high-level stakeholders, requirements, assumptions, etc. with the little data that we have available at that initial stage.
- In the project management plan, we refine that high-level information and build-upon it as more data becomes available and the picture becomes clearer.

Good luck with your exam,
Traian
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Soma Sundaram Sr.Project Manager| Al Tasnim Enterprises LLC Oman
Project charter and Identify stake holder is both Initiation process according to PMBOK 6th editions. it is important that initial stake holders to be identified to begin with project requirements
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Thomas Walenta Global Project Economy Expert Hackenheim, Germany
Tammy,

Soma says it: develop charter and identify stakeholders are 2 separate activities during the initiation process group.

Identify stakeholders will be a almost continuous process as new people and groups become relevant for the project, others may even vanish.

A good book of Tom Peters, The Project 50, explains 50 good practices, 25 of which take place before the project even starts and are dealing with stakeholders. So identify stakeholders may even begin before the charter is defined.

The charter is meant to be the birth certificate for the project. Even if you know the 50 people in your family, you will only mention parents and the godfather in the birth certificate. Those people relevant for the purpose of the document.

And to Soma, each and every requirement indeed is linked to a stakeholder. In larger projects or in contractual situations, requirements are probably listed before the charter. Then you have to start identification of stakeholders even before that, in a pre-project or during a BA activity (this is for Sergio).
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Jul 25, 2020 2:11 AM
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I appreciate enhanced response on my reply and thank you all
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Peter Rapin Subject Matter Expect; Project Delivery| Independent Consultant Ontario, Canada
In an infrastructure project the stakeholder may be named in a generic way (Architect, Engineer, Contractor, Supplier) as the actual firm and/or individuals have yet to be retained or identified. AS the project advances the minor stakeholders may come and go. Stakeholder management is a dynamic process.
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