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Luis Branco CEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, Ldª Carcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
If in a predictive "pure and hard" approach the following changes are introduced:
- Involvement of teams in project planning
- Quick response to change requests
- Daily meetings on the work to be done
- Weekly meetings on the state of play on where they are addressed:
1. What went well and what went wrong
2. Facilities and difficulties
3. Corrective measures to be implemented
4. record of lessons learned

Will this approach have a different name?
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Aaron Porter
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IT Director| Blade HQ Payson, UT, United States
I've run small to medium projects in a similar manner. I became a CSM in 2007, but it was several years before I worked in an organization that used Scrum, so I borrowed from it wherever I could. One important thing I've learned is that agility is more important than Agile.

On a side note, watch out for third party implementation partners who say they are using an "agile framework" but are really just applying a 2-week readout cycle to a predictive process. Buzzwords and branding don't improve performance.
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Sep 17, 2020 10:38 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Aaron
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion.
What results have you obtained in projects managed in this way?
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Luis Branco CEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, Ldª Carcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Sep 17, 2020 10:11 AM
Replying to Aaron Porter
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I've run small to medium projects in a similar manner. I became a CSM in 2007, but it was several years before I worked in an organization that used Scrum, so I borrowed from it wherever I could. One important thing I've learned is that agility is more important than Agile.

On a side note, watch out for third party implementation partners who say they are using an "agile framework" but are really just applying a 2-week readout cycle to a predictive process. Buzzwords and branding don't improve performance.
Dear Aaron
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion.
What results have you obtained in projects managed in this way?
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Aaron Porter
Community Champion
IT Director| Blade HQ Payson, UT, United States
- Greater awareness of project status and challenges
- Better requirements and design
- Improved knowledge of and support for what was implemented
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Sep 17, 2020 3:01 PM
Luis Branco
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Dear Aaron
Excellent results
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Kiron Bondale Retired | Mentor| Retired Welland, Ontario, Canada
Luis -

Many tools and techniques are life cycle agnostic - they can be applied to predictive and adaptive life cycle projects equally well.

Putting lipstick on a pig won't change its genus or species...

Kiron
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Sep 17, 2020 3:05 PM
Luis Branco
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Dear Kiron
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion

I would like to better understand your comment: "Putting lipstick on a pig won't change its genus or species ..."
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George Freeman Thought Leader | Author | Architect| Florida, United States
Hi Luis,

I would take @Kiron’s use of the word “agnostic” even further and say that:

- [A] All delivery approaches are templates, [B] PM’s are content managers, [C] combine the two, and you have a tailored project to meet the needs of your customer.

Under this way-of-thinking, one does not give a name to a delivery approach, although you could generically call it “Hybrid.” Obviously, this mindset is “fighting words” for many, as there is soooo much emphasis on specific practices/approaches/methods/lifecycles/mindsets, etc., but in truth, I think the “no name approach” is aligned with the dictates of our profession.
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Sep 17, 2020 3:15 PM
Luis Branco
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Dear George
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion
We agree when you wrote: "but in truth, I think the“ no name approach ”is aligned with the dictates of our profession"
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Luis Branco CEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, Ldª Carcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Sep 17, 2020 10:53 AM
Replying to Aaron Porter
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- Greater awareness of project status and challenges
- Better requirements and design
- Improved knowledge of and support for what was implemented
Dear Aaron
Excellent results
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Luis Branco CEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, Ldª Carcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Sep 17, 2020 11:36 AM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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Luis -

Many tools and techniques are life cycle agnostic - they can be applied to predictive and adaptive life cycle projects equally well.

Putting lipstick on a pig won't change its genus or species...

Kiron
Dear Kiron
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion

I would like to better understand your comment: "Putting lipstick on a pig won't change its genus or species ..."
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1 reply by Kiron Bondale
Sep 17, 2020 4:29 PM
Kiron Bondale
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In other words, using agile techniques with a predictive life cycle or waterfall techniques with an adaptive life cycle does not change the pros or cons of using that life cycle.

Kiron
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Luis Branco CEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, Ldª Carcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Sep 17, 2020 1:04 PM
Replying to George Freeman
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Hi Luis,

I would take @Kiron’s use of the word “agnostic” even further and say that:

- [A] All delivery approaches are templates, [B] PM’s are content managers, [C] combine the two, and you have a tailored project to meet the needs of your customer.

Under this way-of-thinking, one does not give a name to a delivery approach, although you could generically call it “Hybrid.” Obviously, this mindset is “fighting words” for many, as there is soooo much emphasis on specific practices/approaches/methods/lifecycles/mindsets, etc., but in truth, I think the “no name approach” is aligned with the dictates of our profession.
Dear George
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion
We agree when you wrote: "but in truth, I think the“ no name approach ”is aligned with the dictates of our profession"
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Kiron Bondale Retired | Mentor| Retired Welland, Ontario, Canada
Sep 17, 2020 3:05 PM
Replying to Luis Branco
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Dear Kiron
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion

I would like to better understand your comment: "Putting lipstick on a pig won't change its genus or species ..."
In other words, using agile techniques with a predictive life cycle or waterfall techniques with an adaptive life cycle does not change the pros or cons of using that life cycle.

Kiron
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Sep 18, 2020 4:35 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Kiron
Thank you for your opinion

It’s just an issue related to the project’s development approach

In situations where there is a lot of money, the scope can be changed at any time and without a defined deadline, can we consider that these are projects?

By the way, are there agile techniques and tools?
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Luis Branco CEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, Ldª Carcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Sep 17, 2020 4:29 PM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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In other words, using agile techniques with a predictive life cycle or waterfall techniques with an adaptive life cycle does not change the pros or cons of using that life cycle.

Kiron
Dear Kiron
Thank you for your opinion

It’s just an issue related to the project’s development approach

In situations where there is a lot of money, the scope can be changed at any time and without a defined deadline, can we consider that these are projects?

By the way, are there agile techniques and tools?
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1 reply by Kiron Bondale
Sep 18, 2020 8:51 AM
Kiron Bondale
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Luis -

If we use the PMBOK Guide definition, then no as there may not be an end and if the product, service or result isn't defined or unique.

There are tools and techniques which are commonly associated with agile approaches (e.g. burndown charts), but that doesn't mean they can't be used with any life cycle.

Kiron
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