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Vito Madaio MD| PMTSI (Project Management Training School Institute) Rome, Italy, Italy
Now I'm really confused!
Officially, A PMI Chapter (Memphis), on the page: https://pmimemphis.org/Education-ATP, about ATP Instructors says: "In order to continue to provide this service, PMI Memphis must certify its ATP program and operate within the guidelines required of all PMI-certified ATP programs. Please note that effective January 2021, PMI (Global) will only recognize PMI-certified ATP programs as authorized to teach PMP Prep." I'm not sure this is true.
Then they conclude with: "January 2021 - PMI requires that all PMP certification prep be taught ONLY BY PMI-CERTIFIED ATP organizations." I'm not sure this is true.
Maybe, this is not true for Independent Schools only.
In the PMP Handbook it continue to be allowed to teach PMP-Prep in many ways, included point D: "D - Training companies or consultant (e.g. Training Schools) - exactly what I'm now (see www.pmtsi.com).
Please, someone of PMI can clarify this important topic, for many independent schools.
Thanks
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HARJIT SINGH Rocklin, Ca, United States
Oct 12, 2020 6:20 PM
Replying to Brantlee Underhill
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Hi, Chapters must become an ATP if they want to provide PMP prep training, or partner with an ATP to deliver the PMP Exam prep. We encourage chapters to partner with an ATP to provide members PMP prep training.
The network is not closed so non-ATPs can offer PMP prep training although the benefit of joining the ATP program is to receive the licensed content, instructor training and channel marketing.
How can someone become ATP instructor for PMP without becoming an ATP?
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1 reply by Kiron Bondale
Aug 18, 2021 7:04 PM
Kiron Bondale
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Harjit -

You can join an existing ATP. To teach using PMI's official PMP prep materials, you must be an instructor registered with an ATP.

Of course, one could choose to teach PMP prep courses without using PMI's materials but you run the risk of having your students have their applications challenged...

Kiron
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Kiron Bondale Retired | Mentor| Retired Welland, Ontario, Canada
Aug 18, 2021 5:19 PM
Replying to HARJIT SINGH
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How can someone become ATP instructor for PMP without becoming an ATP?
Harjit -

You can join an existing ATP. To teach using PMI's official PMP prep materials, you must be an instructor registered with an ATP.

Of course, one could choose to teach PMP prep courses without using PMI's materials but you run the risk of having your students have their applications challenged...

Kiron
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1 reply by RAMESH PB
Oct 29, 2022 1:00 PM
RAMESH PB
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@kiron PMI auditors go by project description given by applicants. As long as application conform to roles of PM mentioned in ECO an application would not be expected to be rejected. Just curious to know on what aspects of an application will particant trained by non-ATP can be challenged. On the contrary i have seen ATP trainees' applications have also been challenged.
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Masood Said PM Consultant| Self employed Plano, Tx, United States
I want to know what terms and conditions are related to ATP trainers. Can an ATP trainer work as a volunteer in a local Chapter? Can a ATP trainer take up a position in the Chapter Board? Thanks
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Kiron Bondale Retired | Mentor| Retired Welland, Ontario, Canada
Masood -

The risk with an ATP trainer being a board member is that there could be a conflict of interest with regards to ATP selection for the chapter's professional development requirements.

I don't think there'd be issues with volunteering in a non-PD event capacity, but a board member role would likely be a no-no.

Kiron
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1 reply by Masood Said
Oct 28, 2022 11:55 AM
Masood Said
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Thanks Kiron,
As I understand, as an ATP Trainer I should NOT be a board member, however I can still be a volunteer and work for the chapter if I want to.
Masood .
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Masood Said PM Consultant| Self employed Plano, Tx, United States
Oct 28, 2022 8:05 AM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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Masood -

The risk with an ATP trainer being a board member is that there could be a conflict of interest with regards to ATP selection for the chapter's professional development requirements.

I don't think there'd be issues with volunteering in a non-PD event capacity, but a board member role would likely be a no-no.

Kiron
Thanks Kiron,
As I understand, as an ATP Trainer I should NOT be a board member, however I can still be a volunteer and work for the chapter if I want to.
Masood .
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1 reply by Kiron Bondale
Oct 28, 2022 7:05 PM
Kiron Bondale
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Correct - volunteering at chapter events is fine, so long as you don't leverage that position to get an unfair advantage over other ATPs who might bid to teach for the Chapter.

Kiron
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Kiron Bondale Retired | Mentor| Retired Welland, Ontario, Canada
Oct 28, 2022 11:55 AM
Replying to Masood Said
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Thanks Kiron,
As I understand, as an ATP Trainer I should NOT be a board member, however I can still be a volunteer and work for the chapter if I want to.
Masood .
Correct - volunteering at chapter events is fine, so long as you don't leverage that position to get an unfair advantage over other ATPs who might bid to teach for the Chapter.

Kiron
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RAMESH PB Authorised Training Partner - PMI for PMP & PMI-ACP| education Chennai, Tamil Nadu, India
Aug 18, 2021 7:04 PM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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Harjit -

You can join an existing ATP. To teach using PMI's official PMP prep materials, you must be an instructor registered with an ATP.

Of course, one could choose to teach PMP prep courses without using PMI's materials but you run the risk of having your students have their applications challenged...

Kiron
@kiron PMI auditors go by project description given by applicants. As long as application conform to roles of PM mentioned in ECO an application would not be expected to be rejected. Just curious to know on what aspects of an application will particant trained by non-ATP can be challenged. On the contrary i have seen ATP trainees' applications have also been challenged.
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1 reply by Kiron Bondale
Oct 30, 2022 12:50 PM
Kiron Bondale
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Ramesh -

The follow-up (recent) question from Masood which I responded to was about someone who trains on behalf of an ATP also working as a board member for a Chapter.

Kiron
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Kiron Bondale Retired | Mentor| Retired Welland, Ontario, Canada
Oct 29, 2022 1:00 PM
Replying to RAMESH PB
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@kiron PMI auditors go by project description given by applicants. As long as application conform to roles of PM mentioned in ECO an application would not be expected to be rejected. Just curious to know on what aspects of an application will particant trained by non-ATP can be challenged. On the contrary i have seen ATP trainees' applications have also been challenged.
Ramesh -

The follow-up (recent) question from Masood which I responded to was about someone who trains on behalf of an ATP also working as a board member for a Chapter.

Kiron
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