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PMBOK 6th 4.2.2.4 Kick-off meetings for small and large projects...

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Lilian Seow Intracorp Projects Ltd. British Columbia, Canada
I am having trouble understanding the paragraph for the large project. I think it is saying the kick-off meeting starts after planning and before execution because there are two teams working in the different process groups. Did I get that right?
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Thomas Walenta Global Project Economy Expert Hackenheim, Germany
Lilian

you got it right.
The kickoff is for a team to align before work starts. Could be several kickoffs if there are different teams at different points in the project lifecycle, e.g. when new phases start.

The process groups are not a good example as they are not phases and go in iterations.

For example, normally the implementation team has a kickoff, but also if there us a testing team, a PM team etc.
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Feb 03, 2021 10:19 PM
Lilian Seow
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Thank you Thomas.
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Kiron Bondale Retired | Mentor| Retired Welland, Ontario, Canada
If we go back to what the purpose of a kick-off meeting is, then the number and timing of kick-off meetings is likely to vary by the context of a given project.

On a very small project where all team members are there from the very beginning, a kick-off meeting might happen right after the project is formally authorized via a charter or similar output. On a bigger project, as Thomas has indicated, you'd have multiple kick-off meetings - one possible right at the beginning, then more as we complete key phases and there is a material change in the team composition.

Kiron
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Feb 03, 2021 10:19 PM
Lilian Seow
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Thank you Kiron.
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Verónica Elizabeth Pozo Ruiz RYLAI Access Control Quito, Pichincha, Ecuador
You are correct, a kickoff meeting is executed before the work of the project starts, so, it's important to have defined the schedule, responsibilities and organigram, initial risks, list of tasks and deliverables.
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Fars Almarzoq NIC Riyadh, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
Usually a kick off meeting is held before the project started. It’s a trigger of starting the project
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Bill Dow PMO Director| University of WA Renton, Wa, United States
I am sorry, I have never heard of multiple kickoff meetings, that's an interesting concept, I will definitely look into in my PMO. I have only ever had one kick-off meeting at the beginning of the project and then of course you have phase gate meetings throughout the project, but the Kickoff meeting has a very specific purpose and as it has been stated before any work begins.
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Douglas Olson Shawnee, Ks, United States
For large projects (think of a multi-phase, multi-release ERP implementation as an example), there could be a kickoff meeting at the start of each phase, each Release, etc. In this context, project team members may change; kickoff meetings are a good vehicle to align project team members on the upcoming work. As stated previously, each kickoff meeting would orient team to the goals/objectives and key stakeholders, re-establish team working norms, ensure understanding of tools to be used, and position the schedule for the duration of the phase or release. Additionally, different types of work could be occurring in a phase (i.e. requirements identification, build, test), so disciplines/procedures need to be understood by the team depending on the type of work being performed.
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Lilian Seow Intracorp Projects Ltd. British Columbia, Canada
Feb 03, 2021 2:58 AM
Replying to Thomas Walenta
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Lilian

you got it right.
The kickoff is for a team to align before work starts. Could be several kickoffs if there are different teams at different points in the project lifecycle, e.g. when new phases start.

The process groups are not a good example as they are not phases and go in iterations.

For example, normally the implementation team has a kickoff, but also if there us a testing team, a PM team etc.
Thank you Thomas.
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Lilian Seow Intracorp Projects Ltd. British Columbia, Canada
Feb 03, 2021 8:23 AM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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If we go back to what the purpose of a kick-off meeting is, then the number and timing of kick-off meetings is likely to vary by the context of a given project.

On a very small project where all team members are there from the very beginning, a kick-off meeting might happen right after the project is formally authorized via a charter or similar output. On a bigger project, as Thomas has indicated, you'd have multiple kick-off meetings - one possible right at the beginning, then more as we complete key phases and there is a material change in the team composition.

Kiron
Thank you Kiron.

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