Patrick DiceyManager, Customer Project Management| CentralSquare TechnologiesOrlando, Fl, United States
Right now we have several openings in my PMO and it has been surprisingly hard to find a really qualified candidate pool. A bit surprising considering what I feel we offer related to the type of work, pay, benefits, etc.
Angie LehmannProject Manager| NDITDetroit Lakes, Mn, United States
Have you tried reaching out to your local chapter? I would start there and connect with them. Best way to find a job or find employees is through your connections/networks.
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May 03, 2021 9:46 AM
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Good suggestion... it looks like the Central Florida chapter allows for free postings. Just threw one up. Thank you!
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Eric WrightMilitary Veteran | Social Entrepreneur | Content Creator| Vets2PM, LLC Melbourne, Fl, United States
Please contact Cathy Miclat over at Vets2PM @Patrick, we have a database of over 4K veteran PMs, many of whom have security clearances and PM credentials, plus the dedication, team work, discipline, responsibility, and accountably veterans bring. Additionally, all of our candidates are Department of Labor certified, meaning that upon hire, they reduce your tax bill by $9,600.00! Saving Changes...
One of the reasons good recruiting firms charge as much as they do is that they can narrow down the applicant pool to more qualified candidates.
Treat this like a project and decide which constraint is more important. If it is your and your team's time, you may need to pay a premium price to have an efficient hiring process. If it is cost, then you may have to slog through a mountain of unqualified applications before finding the needle in a haystack.
When I used to hire PMs in the past, it was through social media and local Chapters to give myself the broadest range of candidates as I was more cost-bound than time-bound.
Kiron
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1 reply by Patrick Dicey
May 03, 2021 9:48 AM
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You're right, the triple constraint in action. In our case we do have recruiters whose job it is to "slog" through those candidates. We weren't getting a large number of qualified applicants, so I wanted to help beef up the candidate pool.
Patrick,
From my point of view, Local Chapters, Social Media (LinkedIn) and people inside of your organization can provide good candidates and not expensive.
Having easy application career sites helps too (at least with "millennials like me" ) last time that I was looking for an new challenge and found out that the application form took me more than 15 min I didn't complete it, I lost the interest to apply.
Good luck!
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1 reply by Patrick Dicey
May 03, 2021 9:49 AM
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I agree completely - some application processes are painful, redundant, and time consuming. I like when LinkedIN easy apply is an option. I'll have to ask our recruiters if we are setup for this.
I believe that good PM's are easier to "make" (i.e. train) than to find. By promoting someone from within who is already familiar with your company and how it works, and presumably with the desire to take on something new and tackle it, you get the chance to mold someone into the best kind of PM that you know works within your company and environment.
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May 03, 2021 9:50 AM
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I agree Bob, in many cases I do prefer training young talent who have the right aptitudes. We have been screening internal candidates as well.
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Bill DowPMO Director| University of WARenton, Wa, United States
We have several openings in our PMO and also struggling to find some good talent. Our jobs are posted everywhere across the company and still struggling. Yes, we are using PMI's career site, but no hits yet. :(
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1 reply by Patrick Dicey
May 03, 2021 9:52 AM
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Interesting trend for what I would think is a very desirable career option for many folks.
I put up a PMI global posting, I was told by our recruiting team they did get a large number of applications that they are working on screening. Unfortunately our screening process is too slow and I haven't seen many of them yet. A few solid candidates at senior level. We do have some of those slots, but at the moment I have openings for early career folks in my team.
Patrick DiceyManager, Customer Project Management| CentralSquare TechnologiesOrlando, Fl, United States
Feb 09, 2021 6:37 PM
Replying to Angie Lehmann
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Have you tried reaching out to your local chapter? I would start there and connect with them. Best way to find a job or find employees is through your connections/networks.
Good suggestion... it looks like the Central Florida chapter allows for free postings. Just threw one up. Thank you! Saving Changes...
Patrick DiceyManager, Customer Project Management| CentralSquare TechnologiesOrlando, Fl, United States
Feb 10, 2021 8:41 AM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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Patrick -
One of the reasons good recruiting firms charge as much as they do is that they can narrow down the applicant pool to more qualified candidates.
Treat this like a project and decide which constraint is more important. If it is your and your team's time, you may need to pay a premium price to have an efficient hiring process. If it is cost, then you may have to slog through a mountain of unqualified applications before finding the needle in a haystack.
When I used to hire PMs in the past, it was through social media and local Chapters to give myself the broadest range of candidates as I was more cost-bound than time-bound.
Kiron
You're right, the triple constraint in action. In our case we do have recruiters whose job it is to "slog" through those candidates. We weren't getting a large number of qualified applicants, so I wanted to help beef up the candidate pool. Saving Changes...
Patrick DiceyManager, Customer Project Management| CentralSquare TechnologiesOrlando, Fl, United States
Feb 10, 2021 6:06 PM
Replying to Mayte Mata Sivera
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Patrick,
From my point of view, Local Chapters, Social Media (LinkedIn) and people inside of your organization can provide good candidates and not expensive.
Having easy application career sites helps too (at least with "millennials like me" ) last time that I was looking for an new challenge and found out that the application form took me more than 15 min I didn't complete it, I lost the interest to apply.
Good luck!
I agree completely - some application processes are painful, redundant, and time consuming. I like when LinkedIN easy apply is an option. I'll have to ask our recruiters if we are setup for this. Saving Changes...
