I have worked for DaVita for 20 years (as a PM for 3), but I have no degree. I love my job, but if I decide to leave, will I be able to get another PM position w/o a degree? Saving Changes...
Peter RapinSubject Matter Expect; Project Delivery| Independent ConsultantOntario, Canada
There is no "yes or no" answer to this. Some organizations rely heavily of academic qualifications, some on experience. In the consulting industry we tend to focus on formal training as we have to "sell" personnel qualifications to our clients. If I were you I would gravitate to the companies focused on experience in order to have equal footing with current staff. However, their search for experience may be very narrow whereas academic qualification may be more general as they may perceive that formally trained people have more general knowledge and thus more potential.
That will depend on the hiring practices of the company. At some companies, everyone goes through the HR screening process first. If the job requirement says degree required, then you may be automatically filtered out without even reading your resume.
At smaller companies, they may read your resume and like what they see before they get to the educational credentials and consider the experience over the degree. When some people entered the job force 20 or more years ago, a degree was not required and many specialty degrees did not exist. For more experience professionals, demonstrated performance is often valued over a degree in an irrelevant subject.
If you network with the right contacts, some hiring managers have the option of selecting an employee and HR just does the paperwork. As they say, "It's not what you know, but who you know."
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1 reply by Tracy Campbell
Apr 21, 2021 10:38 AM
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Thank you Keith. I agree that sometimes it's sometimes a matter of "who you know". I do try to network with others in the field for exactly that reason.
It depends as other mentioned, I highly recommend you to take a look in LinkedIn, activate the flag "I'm open for new opportunities" and explore what kind of opportunities are outside your actual organization.
Product Operations Program ManagerBarcelona, Cataluña, Spain
It really depends on the employer as others have mentioned earlier. I have noticed an increase of job offers that say "PMP is advantageous (but not a must)". Thus, the employer does not wish to miss out on individuals with a great profile who lack the certification; at the same time, they might pick a PMP certified candidate in case that they have doubts between two similar profiles. In summary: I would consider getting the certification, it can only help you. Good luck in your next steps!
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1 reply by Tracy Campbell
Apr 21, 2021 10:39 AM
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Thank you!
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Xue ZhangProject Manager| thyssenkrupp System Engineering Inc.Mi, United States
I agree with others here that it depends on the requirements of company. Personally I think experience is more important or valuable than degree. People can get a degree within short period of time, but not experience.
There is no "yes or no" answer to this. Some organizations rely heavily of academic qualifications, some on experience. In the consulting industry we tend to focus on formal training as we have to "sell" personnel qualifications to our clients. If I were you I would gravitate to the companies focused on experience in order to have equal footing with current staff. However, their search for experience may be very narrow whereas academic qualification may be more general as they may perceive that formally trained people have more general knowledge and thus more potential.
Thank you. I appreciate your input :-) Saving Changes...
That will depend on the hiring practices of the company. At some companies, everyone goes through the HR screening process first. If the job requirement says degree required, then you may be automatically filtered out without even reading your resume.
At smaller companies, they may read your resume and like what they see before they get to the educational credentials and consider the experience over the degree. When some people entered the job force 20 or more years ago, a degree was not required and many specialty degrees did not exist. For more experience professionals, demonstrated performance is often valued over a degree in an irrelevant subject.
If you network with the right contacts, some hiring managers have the option of selecting an employee and HR just does the paperwork. As they say, "It's not what you know, but who you know."
Thank you Keith. I agree that sometimes it's sometimes a matter of "who you know". I do try to network with others in the field for exactly that reason. Saving Changes...
It depends as other mentioned, I highly recommend you to take a look in LinkedIn, activate the flag "I'm open for new opportunities" and explore what kind of opportunities are outside your actual organization.
It really depends on the employer as others have mentioned earlier. I have noticed an increase of job offers that say "PMP is advantageous (but not a must)". Thus, the employer does not wish to miss out on individuals with a great profile who lack the certification; at the same time, they might pick a PMP certified candidate in case that they have doubts between two similar profiles. In summary: I would consider getting the certification, it can only help you. Good luck in your next steps!
I agree with others here that it depends on the requirements of company. Personally I think experience is more important or valuable than degree. People can get a degree within short period of time, but not experience.
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