The term "Citizen Developer" is still vastly unrecognized and unrepresented in the job hunting market. What job titles are you seeing being used for Citizen Developer Practitioners? Saving Changes...
Stéphane ParentSelf Employed / Semi-retired| Leader MakerPrince Edward Island, Canada
Mar 27, 2022 1:06 PM
Replying to Thomas Walenta
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Hi Victoria,
this whole CD idea reminds me of running into a guy using Excel in his retail business in 1987. He was using it to automate and simplify his business tasks, making his insights better and his decisions quicker. He invested a good amount of experimenting to create excel sheets. Some time later we all did this.
And we soon found Excel courses, certifications, coaches and job postings included Excel skills, along your skills to do the job. And consultants making money with it. Today, thanks to Steve Jobs, intuitive UIs are standard.
And going back even further, I remember reading typewriting skills on job postings, before we had PCs.
In my view, CD is a current hype in the long story of digitalisation.
Thomas
"Today, thanks to Steve Jobs, intuitive UIs are standard."
I think we can go farther back to HP (formerly, Xerox) PARC for the introduction of GUIs. Of course, some people might say SAP is bucking the trend of intuitive UI.
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1 reply by Thomas Walenta
Apr 01, 2022 12:06 PM
Thomas Walenta
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True, Stephane.
It seems SAP is looking for a distinguishing feature here, like function over form. These users may benefit from some challenges and some are like Citizen Developers, in that they find ways to tweak the system.
GUIs are a special type of UIs.
Steve Jobs was good at bringing inventions by others to market domination.
Thomas
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Thomas WalentaGlobal Project Economy ExpertHackenheim, Germany
Apr 01, 2022 12:00 PM
Replying to Stéphane Parent
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"Today, thanks to Steve Jobs, intuitive UIs are standard."
I think we can go farther back to HP (formerly, Xerox) PARC for the introduction of GUIs. Of course, some people might say SAP is bucking the trend of intuitive UI.
True, Stephane.
It seems SAP is looking for a distinguishing feature here, like function over form. These users may benefit from some challenges and some are like Citizen Developers, in that they find ways to tweak the system.
GUIs are a special type of UIs.
Steve Jobs was good at bringing inventions by others to market domination.
Thomas Saving Changes...
Luis Diaz LunaProyect Manager| SimpleTVCaracas, Distrito Federal, Venezuela (Bolivarian Republic of)
Aug 10, 2021 10:57 AM
Replying to Rami Kaibni
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Victoria
I clearly mentioned to you that besides BA's, it could be anyone capable in the organization or third party so it could be: "Process Improvement Consultant", "Process Automation Consultant".
However, for CD initiatives, it is highly recommended that you do this in-house which means, build a team from within the organization rather than third party consultants.
Moreover, again, up to date, I haven't come across a job opening asking for a Citizen Developer role or any other role requested CD to be part of their Job Description.
Hope this provides more clarity to my answer !
RK
I have seen talent searches aim to subjet matter experts with a strong low/code (branded) development skill Saving Changes...
Luis Diaz LunaProyect Manager| SimpleTVCaracas, Distrito Federal, Venezuela (Bolivarian Republic of)
Girls + Guys!, why don´t we start a disruptive way of co-creating, when we try to find the "job title" name of the "function" CD, while her/his "way of working" is fully open for our observation.
I believe, accoding to my experience, we should start first defining, for instance, the CD principels (like in PMBOK 7, check!l), or personal values, or those observable conducts a GOOD CD would model to their peers... then we might end up with a better understanding about how we should call ourselves? I am a CD in potential, is my perspective... Saving Changes...
