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Gretta Kelzi Operations Manager/Ethics Insights Team| Esri Lebanon/PMI Jdeidet Al Maten, Al Maten, Lebanon
Last week, I was reading an article about servant leadership. It mentions sharing power, priortize the needs, helping other develop and perform … and the list goes on…

It is clear that being a servant leader means respecting needs and treating others in a rightful way…

The same article mentions that « not all ethical leaders are servant leaders but all servant leaders are ethical leaders”

What do you think about this?
Do you agree/disagree?
is servant leadership different from ethical leadership? And how?
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Sergio Luis Conte Helping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based Organizations Buenos Aires, Argentina
It has not sense. Both are different things. Leadership style from one side and Ethic from the other. And both should not be taken outside the context. While I did not read the article, like in other lot of things outside there, some people mix things and contribute to the general confusion.
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1 reply by Gretta Kelzi
Aug 25, 2021 9:14 AM
Gretta Kelzi
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Thank you Sergio for sharing your thoughts.
I agree that there is a difference between style and values/principles... From a technical perspective, you might be applying a leadership style without having a positive influence over the team. I think ethics come always first.
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Kiron Bondale Retired | Mentor| Retired Welland, Ontario, Canada
Interesting question, Gretta!

Ethics is a subjective term and for some, how they treat the people they work with might not fall within their definition of ethics. At its most basic, ethics is knowing the difference between right and wrong and acting according to that. But what does "right" mean...?

Kiron
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1 reply by Gretta Kelzi
Aug 25, 2021 9:16 AM
Gretta Kelzi
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You nailed Kiron, thank you for your participation. Doing the right thing is so debatable and dependable on individual perspectives, no matter how we have metrics and KPIs in place.
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Peter Rapin Subject Matter Expect; Project Delivery| Independent Consultant Ontario, Canada
I don't agree that "all servant leaders are ethical leaders". It depends on the reason or purpose of choosing to be a servant-leader. If the intent is get get power over others or attain a position of inappropriate influence then I would question the ethics. Ethics has to do with the intended results of your actions. They can be honourable or ethical or quite the opposite. If a gang leader is respectful of his members and gets their input and buy-in to rob a bank is he/she ethical?

A leader who promotes him/herself as a servant-leader is most likely not as ethical as they may believe they are.
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2 replies by Albert Agbemenu and Gretta Kelzi
Aug 25, 2021 9:19 AM
Gretta Kelzi
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Peter, thank you for your insights. I never thought that servant leadership means having power over others , not exercising bad influence. For me, Being a server is an ultimate way to influence others to do good things.
Aug 26, 2021 3:53 AM
Albert Agbemenu
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I agree with you Peter. Exactly what my opinion is.
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Stephanie Jaeger Lead Consultant| Jaeger Consultants Ltd Nairobi, Nairobi, Kenya
I think any true servant leader is ethical.
However I agree with @Peter Rapin, that those who announce themselves to be servant leaders, need to be looked at closely. I have met too many who actually have not even understood what servant leadership is.
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1 reply by Gretta Kelzi
Aug 25, 2021 9:21 AM
Gretta Kelzi
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Hey Stephanie, thank you for engaging in the discussion...
I've always linked leadership to ethics, thus, thinking and acting in a positive way to leave positive impact.
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Tiago Romao Project Manager - PfMP | PgMP | PMP | ACP | PBA | CBAP | CSM | MSc.| Altice Portugal | Meo Sobreda, Setubal/Almada, Portugal
Yes i do agree.
Ethics is "subjective", too many people with unclear principles.
I think servant-leadership implies knowing how to "ethical" act, clear principles even though it depends on internal and external factors e.g. yourself, others, context, etc.
Servant leadership expects to letting go the "ego", starting by don't have any sort of expectations, such as financial, growing on the organization.
Ethical leadership assumes granted "leadership"
I constantly observe people claiming they "serve" the team, project, but they stop doing it when i ask them to perform a task they don't agree with it's purpose, they want to lead others, not lead by.
Many people never played in a sport team, like soccer, many did but still want to lead the team, defend, strike and score goals.
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1 reply by Gretta Kelzi
Aug 25, 2021 9:23 AM
Gretta Kelzi
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Thank you Tiago for highlighting the misinterpretation and application of servant leadership style. We both agree that ethics are the foundational aspect of any leader.
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Gretta Kelzi Operations Manager/Ethics Insights Team| Esri Lebanon/PMI Jdeidet Al Maten, Al Maten, Lebanon
Aug 22, 2021 7:01 AM
Replying to Sergio Luis Conte
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It has not sense. Both are different things. Leadership style from one side and Ethic from the other. And both should not be taken outside the context. While I did not read the article, like in other lot of things outside there, some people mix things and contribute to the general confusion.
Thank you Sergio for sharing your thoughts.
I agree that there is a difference between style and values/principles... From a technical perspective, you might be applying a leadership style without having a positive influence over the team. I think ethics come always first.
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Gretta Kelzi Operations Manager/Ethics Insights Team| Esri Lebanon/PMI Jdeidet Al Maten, Al Maten, Lebanon
Aug 22, 2021 11:08 AM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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Interesting question, Gretta!

Ethics is a subjective term and for some, how they treat the people they work with might not fall within their definition of ethics. At its most basic, ethics is knowing the difference between right and wrong and acting according to that. But what does "right" mean...?

Kiron
You nailed Kiron, thank you for your participation. Doing the right thing is so debatable and dependable on individual perspectives, no matter how we have metrics and KPIs in place.
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Gretta Kelzi Operations Manager/Ethics Insights Team| Esri Lebanon/PMI Jdeidet Al Maten, Al Maten, Lebanon
Aug 22, 2021 4:34 PM
Replying to Peter Rapin
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I don't agree that "all servant leaders are ethical leaders". It depends on the reason or purpose of choosing to be a servant-leader. If the intent is get get power over others or attain a position of inappropriate influence then I would question the ethics. Ethics has to do with the intended results of your actions. They can be honourable or ethical or quite the opposite. If a gang leader is respectful of his members and gets their input and buy-in to rob a bank is he/she ethical?

A leader who promotes him/herself as a servant-leader is most likely not as ethical as they may believe they are.
Peter, thank you for your insights. I never thought that servant leadership means having power over others , not exercising bad influence. For me, Being a server is an ultimate way to influence others to do good things.
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Gretta Kelzi Operations Manager/Ethics Insights Team| Esri Lebanon/PMI Jdeidet Al Maten, Al Maten, Lebanon
Aug 23, 2021 1:27 AM
Replying to Stephanie Jaeger
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I think any true servant leader is ethical.
However I agree with @Peter Rapin, that those who announce themselves to be servant leaders, need to be looked at closely. I have met too many who actually have not even understood what servant leadership is.
Hey Stephanie, thank you for engaging in the discussion...
I've always linked leadership to ethics, thus, thinking and acting in a positive way to leave positive impact.
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Gretta Kelzi Operations Manager/Ethics Insights Team| Esri Lebanon/PMI Jdeidet Al Maten, Al Maten, Lebanon
Aug 23, 2021 6:58 AM
Replying to Tiago Romao
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Yes i do agree.
Ethics is "subjective", too many people with unclear principles.
I think servant-leadership implies knowing how to "ethical" act, clear principles even though it depends on internal and external factors e.g. yourself, others, context, etc.
Servant leadership expects to letting go the "ego", starting by don't have any sort of expectations, such as financial, growing on the organization.
Ethical leadership assumes granted "leadership"
I constantly observe people claiming they "serve" the team, project, but they stop doing it when i ask them to perform a task they don't agree with it's purpose, they want to lead others, not lead by.
Many people never played in a sport team, like soccer, many did but still want to lead the team, defend, strike and score goals.
Thank you Tiago for highlighting the misinterpretation and application of servant leadership style. We both agree that ethics are the foundational aspect of any leader.
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