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Got my PMP & CSM, what certification should I do next?
Hi Experts, I got through my PMP with above average in all the 3 domains and passed CSM with a 100% Score.

My ambition is to become a top Project manager in the Software industry. Please advise me on my next step, what certification should I do next and what after that? what is most in-demand and what will help me to become an expert in Project management (I know along with the certifications the experience matters but let's focus on the certifications here)

Thank you.
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Ami

I am not sure what experience you have already but I assume you have a few year of project managment experience. I highly recommend PMI-ACP since Agility is very important these days especially on IT related projects.

RK
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1 reply by Ami S
Feb 04, 2022 9:37 AM
Ami S
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Thanks for the advice Rami, yes ACP looks good, and its on my list, but is it still in the same demand after PMP having over 50% of Agile?

Should I consider SAFe as well?
Ami -

The software industry is extremely broad, and most recruiters or hiring managers look for folks with experience in the specific sub-domain (e.g. ERP implementation, blockchain) that their project needs.

While continuing down the agile journey would help, if you are interested in a specific type of software project, you might want to see if there are certifications available tied to that to differentiate yourself from other generalist PMs...

Kiron
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1 reply by Ami S
Feb 04, 2022 9:48 AM
Ami S
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Thanks, Kiron. My experience is in both Software development and ERP projects. However, Im biased towards development projects.

Just wanted to get an idea of what to do next as I have some free time at the moment and can invest that time in a certificate. Let me know if you can recommend anything.

Of course, the whole idea is to differentiate myself from the rest.
You better research the job market based on your ambition. Try to find the certifications that your favorite positions need and act accordingly.
Anyway, the certification is only a piece of paper which can show that you learned something. In practice, you should prove your expertise, knowledge and experience you gained. To achieve your ambition, you need more than certificates.
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1 reply by Ami S
Feb 04, 2022 9:51 AM
Ami S
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Thanks, Abolfazi. Yes, I'm doing research on the certificates available and wanted to get the ideas of the experts here as well.

There is a lot out there and not sure what to do next!
Feb 03, 2022 11:45 PM
Replying to Rami Kaibni
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Ami

I am not sure what experience you have already but I assume you have a few year of project managment experience. I highly recommend PMI-ACP since Agility is very important these days especially on IT related projects.

RK
Thanks for the advice Rami, yes ACP looks good, and its on my list, but is it still in the same demand after PMP having over 50% of Agile?

Should I consider SAFe as well?
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Feb 04, 2022 9:42 AM
Rami Kaibni
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Ami, sorry, I can’t speak to that as I don’t know your experience nor your future goals.
Feb 04, 2022 9:37 AM
Replying to Ami S
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Thanks for the advice Rami, yes ACP looks good, and its on my list, but is it still in the same demand after PMP having over 50% of Agile?

Should I consider SAFe as well?
Ami, sorry, I can’t speak to that as I don’t know your experience nor your future goals.
Feb 04, 2022 7:49 AM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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Ami -

The software industry is extremely broad, and most recruiters or hiring managers look for folks with experience in the specific sub-domain (e.g. ERP implementation, blockchain) that their project needs.

While continuing down the agile journey would help, if you are interested in a specific type of software project, you might want to see if there are certifications available tied to that to differentiate yourself from other generalist PMs...

Kiron
Thanks, Kiron. My experience is in both Software development and ERP projects. However, Im biased towards development projects.

Just wanted to get an idea of what to do next as I have some free time at the moment and can invest that time in a certificate. Let me know if you can recommend anything.

Of course, the whole idea is to differentiate myself from the rest.
Feb 04, 2022 8:34 AM
Replying to Abolfazl Yousefi Darestani
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You better research the job market based on your ambition. Try to find the certifications that your favorite positions need and act accordingly.
Anyway, the certification is only a piece of paper which can show that you learned something. In practice, you should prove your expertise, knowledge and experience you gained. To achieve your ambition, you need more than certificates.
Thanks, Abolfazi. Yes, I'm doing research on the certificates available and wanted to get the ideas of the experts here as well.

There is a lot out there and not sure what to do next!
How long ago did you get your PMP and CSM?

Is your goal to be an expert, or to be perceived as an expert?

What does being an expert mean to you?

From a maintenance perspective, try to spread your certifications out, to maximize the impact of your PDUs. I'm not following this advice, this year, because I want to take the DAVSC class by March, so I'm knocking out the DASM and DASSM pretty quickly, which means I'll have over 60 PDUs and two more years before I need to renew my PMP. I usually spread things out more, and double down in year three so I can roll a few PDUs over.

Certification does not make you an expert. The combination of training and experience get you on the path, but if you want to be perceived as an expert, you have to make your views known, provide guidance and insight to others, and build your network, among other things.

There are several people who regularly respond to questions on this site. If you read their responses, you'll see that they often have different perspectives and sometimes disagree. Hopefully, one or more of them can provide additional insight into what it takes be be perceived as an expert.
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1 reply by Ami S
Feb 04, 2022 10:49 AM
Ami S
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Thanks Aaron. I got my PMP and CSM last year. Altogether i have about 8 years of Projects experience and overall over 18 years of work experience in IT.

Being an expert for me is mastering all the areas of PM, of course with experience. And I would like to complete whatever certificates i can soon as possible while gaining experience from my continuous PM work.

DASM and DASSM are quite new in this region. We rarely see people with these certifications. Also, is PMI going to replace ACP with DASSM? And how demanded it is?

Also, I thought of getting the CSPO since it is a quick one.
Feb 04, 2022 10:23 AM
Replying to Aaron Porter
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How long ago did you get your PMP and CSM?

Is your goal to be an expert, or to be perceived as an expert?

What does being an expert mean to you?

From a maintenance perspective, try to spread your certifications out, to maximize the impact of your PDUs. I'm not following this advice, this year, because I want to take the DAVSC class by March, so I'm knocking out the DASM and DASSM pretty quickly, which means I'll have over 60 PDUs and two more years before I need to renew my PMP. I usually spread things out more, and double down in year three so I can roll a few PDUs over.

Certification does not make you an expert. The combination of training and experience get you on the path, but if you want to be perceived as an expert, you have to make your views known, provide guidance and insight to others, and build your network, among other things.

There are several people who regularly respond to questions on this site. If you read their responses, you'll see that they often have different perspectives and sometimes disagree. Hopefully, one or more of them can provide additional insight into what it takes be be perceived as an expert.
Thanks Aaron. I got my PMP and CSM last year. Altogether i have about 8 years of Projects experience and overall over 18 years of work experience in IT.

Being an expert for me is mastering all the areas of PM, of course with experience. And I would like to complete whatever certificates i can soon as possible while gaining experience from my continuous PM work.

DASM and DASSM are quite new in this region. We rarely see people with these certifications. Also, is PMI going to replace ACP with DASSM? And how demanded it is?

Also, I thought of getting the CSPO since it is a quick one.
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1 reply by Aaron Porter
Feb 04, 2022 12:42 PM
Aaron Porter
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If you'll be working as a CSM, CSPO is not a bad idea. I feel like CSPO training helped me be a better CSM, since it gave me a better understanding of what the PO should be doing and made me a better coach for my POs.
Feb 04, 2022 10:49 AM
Replying to Ami S
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Thanks Aaron. I got my PMP and CSM last year. Altogether i have about 8 years of Projects experience and overall over 18 years of work experience in IT.

Being an expert for me is mastering all the areas of PM, of course with experience. And I would like to complete whatever certificates i can soon as possible while gaining experience from my continuous PM work.

DASM and DASSM are quite new in this region. We rarely see people with these certifications. Also, is PMI going to replace ACP with DASSM? And how demanded it is?

Also, I thought of getting the CSPO since it is a quick one.
If you'll be working as a CSM, CSPO is not a bad idea. I feel like CSPO training helped me be a better CSM, since it gave me a better understanding of what the PO should be doing and made me a better coach for my POs.
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