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Nuno Costa Portugal
How can one disseminating Project Management in High Schools (Polytechniques or Universities), or which is the best way to do it?
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Stephen Robin Project Analyst Trainee| Ministry of Works and Transport Arima, Ari, Trinidad and Tobago
Nuno

I would need further clarity on your question. Do you mean the implementation of courses and programs focused on project management in schools or presentations on project management as a career path and what it entails?
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1 reply by Nuno Costa
Mar 01, 2022 9:02 AM
Nuno Costa
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... how to disseminate the principles and domains of PMBOK, and other PMI standards
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Sergio Luis Conte Helping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based Organizations Buenos Aires, Argentina
Take a look to PMI Educational Foundation (PMIEF).
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1 reply by Stéphane Parent
Mar 02, 2022 8:56 PM
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In fact, you might want to check out Project Management for Education, by Bernie Trilling and Walter Ginevri, published by PMIEF. It's two books in one: flip it on one side and you have the "Learning Guide for Project Managers"; flip it over and it's "Learning Guide for Educators".
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Nuno Costa Portugal
Feb 28, 2022 9:13 PM
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Nuno

I would need further clarity on your question. Do you mean the implementation of courses and programs focused on project management in schools or presentations on project management as a career path and what it entails?
... how to disseminate the principles and domains of PMBOK, and other PMI standards
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1 reply by Stephen Robin
Mar 01, 2022 9:38 AM
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Ok I understand, like Sergio recommended, take a deep dive into the PMI Educational Foundation (PMIEF) and liaise with your local chapter to conceptualize and plan a throughout and effective initiative.

Here is the link
.https://www.pmi.org/pmi-educational-foundation/about-us
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Peter Rapin Subject Matter Expect; Project Delivery| Independent Consultant Ontario, Canada
I would argue the best way is to assign projects to teams. Identify the deliverable and include the delivery methodology as part of the deliverable. Not only is the team required to successfully complete the assignment but they also have to document how they achieved the end result, how they dealt with constraints and challenges.

This was a part (albeit a small part) of my engineering schooling back in the seventies and it came in handy during my career. Note that PMI did not exist back then but project delivery did as did the basics of project management.
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Stephen Robin Project Analyst Trainee| Ministry of Works and Transport Arima, Ari, Trinidad and Tobago
Mar 01, 2022 9:02 AM
Replying to Nuno Costa
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... how to disseminate the principles and domains of PMBOK, and other PMI standards
Ok I understand, like Sergio recommended, take a deep dive into the PMI Educational Foundation (PMIEF) and liaise with your local chapter to conceptualize and plan a throughout and effective initiative.

Here is the link
.https://www.pmi.org/pmi-educational-foundation/about-us
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Thomas Walenta Global Project Economy Expert Hackenheim, Germany
Nuno,

contact the PMI Portugal Chapter, they have a program for PM in schools and may be able to help extend it.
https://pmi-portugal.org/equipa/

Thomas
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Keith Novak Tukwila, Wa, United States
One of the first questions I would ask is whether you intend to teach a practical lesson, or introduce people to PMI theory and how they organize information.

You can teach with real projects, or fake projects.

In a real project, your course might complete some volunteer effort as the final step. The planning is part of the course, and everyone gets an opportunity to lead which is teaching real world skills. Detailed planning and status is not as important as completing the project.

In a fake project, you might have a fun objective and dive deeper into theory, because the end product never has to actually work. Since you will never complete the project itself, you want people to focus on the planning, so let them plan something they find personally interesting.
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1 reply by Peter Rapin
Mar 01, 2022 2:38 PM
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Another option is a case study approach. Can be done with a tie-in to industry. Anywhere from constructing a bridge to a piece of software.
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Peter Rapin Subject Matter Expect; Project Delivery| Independent Consultant Ontario, Canada
Mar 01, 2022 1:29 PM
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One of the first questions I would ask is whether you intend to teach a practical lesson, or introduce people to PMI theory and how they organize information.

You can teach with real projects, or fake projects.

In a real project, your course might complete some volunteer effort as the final step. The planning is part of the course, and everyone gets an opportunity to lead which is teaching real world skills. Detailed planning and status is not as important as completing the project.

In a fake project, you might have a fun objective and dive deeper into theory, because the end product never has to actually work. Since you will never complete the project itself, you want people to focus on the planning, so let them plan something they find personally interesting.
Another option is a case study approach. Can be done with a tie-in to industry. Anywhere from constructing a bridge to a piece of software.
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1 reply by Keith Novak
Mar 01, 2022 6:29 PM
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I think case studies do not work as well for a introductory level as they do for advanced learning. For advanced studies they are great, but if the students lack a foundational background to adequately evaluate the case study, the instructors simply lecture.

For newer or future practitioners, I would try to give them a bit of theory, and then some simple exercises to see what works and what doesn't. Then they have experiences to discuss case studies. Otherwise, I could lecture all day about risk management in residential construction projects, but if the student doesn't know which end of the hammer pounds the nail, most of it will be me talking to myself.
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Keith Novak Tukwila, Wa, United States
Mar 01, 2022 2:38 PM
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Another option is a case study approach. Can be done with a tie-in to industry. Anywhere from constructing a bridge to a piece of software.
I think case studies do not work as well for a introductory level as they do for advanced learning. For advanced studies they are great, but if the students lack a foundational background to adequately evaluate the case study, the instructors simply lecture.

For newer or future practitioners, I would try to give them a bit of theory, and then some simple exercises to see what works and what doesn't. Then they have experiences to discuss case studies. Otherwise, I could lecture all day about risk management in residential construction projects, but if the student doesn't know which end of the hammer pounds the nail, most of it will be me talking to myself.
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1 reply by Peter Rapin
Mar 01, 2022 7:46 PM
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I guess I'm a bit of an elitist in that I see students pursuing a project management program with a pre-requisite level of education and/or experience. I don't see it as a high school certificate. The best you could hope for in a high school setting would be an entry level project administration position from which one can evolve to a PM position with experience and additional education.

Then again, if a person can get dressed in the morning you can plan and run a project. Lay out you clothes, put the underwear on before the pants, socks before the shoes and do a quick quality check in the dressing mirror on the way out. Your mother can be counted on for quality assurance. :-)

By the way, hammers are old technology - we now have power nailers.
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Peter Rapin Subject Matter Expect; Project Delivery| Independent Consultant Ontario, Canada
Mar 01, 2022 6:29 PM
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I think case studies do not work as well for a introductory level as they do for advanced learning. For advanced studies they are great, but if the students lack a foundational background to adequately evaluate the case study, the instructors simply lecture.

For newer or future practitioners, I would try to give them a bit of theory, and then some simple exercises to see what works and what doesn't. Then they have experiences to discuss case studies. Otherwise, I could lecture all day about risk management in residential construction projects, but if the student doesn't know which end of the hammer pounds the nail, most of it will be me talking to myself.
I guess I'm a bit of an elitist in that I see students pursuing a project management program with a pre-requisite level of education and/or experience. I don't see it as a high school certificate. The best you could hope for in a high school setting would be an entry level project administration position from which one can evolve to a PM position with experience and additional education.

Then again, if a person can get dressed in the morning you can plan and run a project. Lay out you clothes, put the underwear on before the pants, socks before the shoes and do a quick quality check in the dressing mirror on the way out. Your mother can be counted on for quality assurance. :-)

By the way, hammers are old technology - we now have power nailers.
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2 replies by Juanita Woods and Keith Novak
Mar 02, 2022 2:27 PM
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I felt the same way until I had an unplanned job leading the training development for new enterprise-wide software. I was the engineering expert on new engineering software working along side the teaching experts. I knew the software, but nothing about being a teacher.

So much stuff that made perfect sense to me just didn't register with a lot of students. I had to learn a lot about effective classroom teaching to be successful, the learning progression, and it is really quite fascinating to see how it is done in a structured, projectized way (if done well).

Years later, I took a graduate level course covering case studies in PM and was paired with a young student while I had over 20 years experience. I got a lot out of it, but the other student just didn't have the background. They probably would have learned more creating a simple project plan than in depth discussions on projects they had never heard about.

As well meaning as you are as a teacher, if you go too far over the student's heads, they will gain nothing from it other than hating your teaching style. :-)
Mar 15, 2022 11:45 AM
Juanita Woods
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I respectfully disagree, Peter.

Just like we introduce other careers at the high school/secondary education level, we should introduce project management as a career option. We can do this by incorporating project management practices in the classroom or offering tracks for project management careers similar to other career tracks (e.g., culinary sciences, nursing, engineering).
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