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How much time do you spend as a PM on rote administrative work?

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Kiron Bondale Retired | Mentor| Retired Welland, Ontario, Canada
Although we'd like to spend most of our time on strategic activities such as managing stakeholder expectations, or team building, the reality is that most project managers are required to spend some time on "paperwork".

I'm running a one week poll to get an idea as to how much effort such rote administrative work actually takes:

https://www.projectmanagement.com/polls/78...ive-activities-

Thanks!

Kiron
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Luis Branco CEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, Ldª Carcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Dear Kiron
I just answered your question
If the percentage of time spent were broken down into smaller units, you might get different results.
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2 replies by Kewei Gao and Kiron Bondale
Jun 24, 2022 5:16 PM
Kiron Bondale
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Thanks Luis -

My experience with time reporting has been that the more granular you make it, the less accurate the results, hence I opted for a few large "buckets".

Kiron
Jun 26, 2022 12:35 PM
Kewei Gao
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向你学习,谢谢!
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Kiron Bondale Retired | Mentor| Retired Welland, Ontario, Canada
Jun 24, 2022 1:44 PM
Replying to Luis Branco
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Dear Kiron
I just answered your question
If the percentage of time spent were broken down into smaller units, you might get different results.
Thanks Luis -

My experience with time reporting has been that the more granular you make it, the less accurate the results, hence I opted for a few large "buckets".

Kiron
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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Done. We tend to do PM and BA works combined so there is quite a decent amount of administrative work involved as consultants.
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Peter Rapin Subject Matter Expect; Project Delivery| Independent Consultant Ontario, Canada
I have responded at 51 - 75%. However that depends on how one defines "administrative" work. How much of a meeting, report reviewing, team counselling, fielding phone calls, reading and responding to emails, etc., etc., is administrative?

If I am charging a client for my time applied to a project its all project work as they don't want to pay my rate for administrative work.

If I attend a progress meeting, even chair it, and everything is perfect - its administrative. If the meeting identifies major issues which requires my engagement - its project work.

If the project is going to plan, its mostly administrative. When the project struggles, project management kicks in.

Anyway, you see where I'm going - it depends on the definition and can be quite subjective.
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1 reply by Kewei Gao
Jun 26, 2022 12:36 PM
Kewei Gao
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回答的非常好!向你学习!
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Thomas Walenta Global Project Economy Expert Hackenheim, Germany
If you get over 25% you should consider hiring a project admin or use a project office.
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1 reply by Marcia McLaughlin
Jun 26, 2022 7:41 PM
Marcia McLaughlin
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I fully agree.
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Kewei Gao Shanghai Juling Information Technology limited company China, Mainland
Jun 24, 2022 1:44 PM
Replying to Luis Branco
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Dear Kiron
I just answered your question
If the percentage of time spent were broken down into smaller units, you might get different results.
向你学习,谢谢!
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Kewei Gao Shanghai Juling Information Technology limited company China, Mainland
Jun 25, 2022 8:09 PM
Replying to Peter Rapin
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I have responded at 51 - 75%. However that depends on how one defines "administrative" work. How much of a meeting, report reviewing, team counselling, fielding phone calls, reading and responding to emails, etc., etc., is administrative?

If I am charging a client for my time applied to a project its all project work as they don't want to pay my rate for administrative work.

If I attend a progress meeting, even chair it, and everything is perfect - its administrative. If the meeting identifies major issues which requires my engagement - its project work.

If the project is going to plan, its mostly administrative. When the project struggles, project management kicks in.

Anyway, you see where I'm going - it depends on the definition and can be quite subjective.
回答的非常好!向你学习!
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Marcia McLaughlin Project Coordinator Ontario, Canada
Jun 26, 2022 5:02 AM
Replying to Thomas Walenta
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If you get over 25% you should consider hiring a project admin or use a project office.
I fully agree.
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Stéphane Parent Self Employed / Semi-retired| Leader Maker Prince Edward Island, Canada
As a general rule, my projects take less than 25%. Larger projects may require a team of project managers. That often leads to some of the project managers having the lion's share of the administration.
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Drew Labinter CCO| France Florists Union France
Interesting poll. For us in our office in Germany (we're in the floral business), the percentage is much higher (33%) than here in the States (about 20%).
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