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EPMO Size - Healthcare
Good Afternoon? I am doing outreach to better understand how you size your EPMO function. Healthcare Preferred but any answers would be welcome:

What is your Industry: (i.e. Healthcare, Manufacturing)
How Large is your organization: (i.e. 30000)
How many FTE are in your PMO? (i.e. 8)
Who do you report to? (i.e. Strategy, Operations, IT, Finance)
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Zachary -

The bank I used to work for had an EPMO (later re-branded) which worked in partnership with multiple PMOs across its lines of business. The organization itself had around 150,000 staff and the EPMO had over a hundred staff at one point. The head of the EPMO reported to one of the bank group heads (the group heads reported to the CEO).

Kiron
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2 replies by Sarmad Azhar
Oct 06, 2022 5:38 AM
Sarmad Azhar
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Did the bank display good Corporate Governance?
Oct 08, 2022 9:51 AM
Sarmad Azhar
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Can you please spell out what the acronym EPMO stands for? So we are all on the same page.
Oct 05, 2022 4:06 PM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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Zachary -

The bank I used to work for had an EPMO (later re-branded) which worked in partnership with multiple PMOs across its lines of business. The organization itself had around 150,000 staff and the EPMO had over a hundred staff at one point. The head of the EPMO reported to one of the bank group heads (the group heads reported to the CEO).

Kiron
Did the bank display good Corporate Governance?
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1 reply by Kiron Bondale
Oct 06, 2022 8:41 AM
Kiron Bondale
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The leadership team did with regards to where investment decisions were made.

Kiron
I participated in crating PMOs (all level of PMOs) in different domains and companies size. Your questions will depends on the strategy and functions/processes you define inside the PMO which will be the services the PMO offers. Including it the architecture you are implementing. For example, in some cases, I have to create an EPMO and PMOs for each layer of the enterprise architecture.
Oct 06, 2022 5:38 AM
Replying to Sarmad Azhar
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Did the bank display good Corporate Governance?
The leadership team did with regards to where investment decisions were made.

Kiron
Zachary,

there are probably more parameters for estimating the PMO size, beyond #of employees, industry and reporting line.

A PMO with less than 3 does not make much sense, beyond 10 it gets complex, though it exists.

I served one organization in the insurance industry, IT division with 600 staff - we started with 3 and after 5 years had 8 FTEs. We also had apprentices, students for some months.

Or in manufacturing, 12K employees, 120 IT division staff and a PMO of 4 FTEs plus apprentices.

I agree with Sergio, that the functions inside PMO have to play a role. The more functions the more bureaucracy / operations / processes you have to maintain or become first a bottleneck and then obsolete.

And often instead of staffing large PMOs, a loosely connected hierarchy of PMOs is established, as was or is the case with IBM and HP.

Sometimes acting PMs are part of the PMO, but I do not think this is a good idea.
Maybe the size of the EPMO depends also of the PMO type.
A PMO supportive, controlling or directive have different tasks and responsibilities that involve the use of less or more personal.
You should perform a Project Management Maturity test on your organization, and based on the result, define what type of PMO best suits your needs.
Oct 05, 2022 4:06 PM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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Zachary -

The bank I used to work for had an EPMO (later re-branded) which worked in partnership with multiple PMOs across its lines of business. The organization itself had around 150,000 staff and the EPMO had over a hundred staff at one point. The head of the EPMO reported to one of the bank group heads (the group heads reported to the CEO).

Kiron
Can you please spell out what the acronym EPMO stands for? So we are all on the same page.

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