Kathryn SchwalbeProfessor Emeritus, Publisher and author| Augsburg CollegeSouth Haven, MN, United States
I was just looking through the new PMI publication: Process Groups: A Practice Guide. It looks like the majority of the information is from the PMBOK Guide, Sixth Edition, but the references only mention other PMI publications. The 49 processes listed on p. 22 are identical to those in the PMBOK Guide, Sixth Edition. Your thoughts? Saving Changes...
I'm guessing they see the combination of this guide and the Seventh Edition of the PMBOK Guide as superseding the Sixth Edition hence the omission of any references to the Sixth Edition.
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Kathryn
I was just looking at it yesterday and had the same thoughts. In principle, I do agree with Kiron’s point of view because we all felt the 7th edition is missing the KA and Processes piece which is important in my opinion.
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Thomas WalentaGlobal Project Economy ExpertHackenheim, Germany
While the processes are included in the pmistandards+ online edition, a printed version makes it easier for applicants to learn (and for collectors to put on the shelve).
I have not yet crosschecked if something changed from PMBoK Guide ed 6 vs this practice guide (guess so).
Still the KAs are gone, for me they are replaced by the performance domains in ed7. Saving Changes...
Kevin SwanzyDivision Sr Project Manager| HCA HealthcareHendersonville, Nc, United States
I find this a fascinating topic and am also striving to understand Performance Domains and removal of Knowledge Areas. In the Critical Path blog “What are Performance Domains, and Why Should I Care?”, Cynthia Dionisio said
Performance Domains are are outcomes focused verses processes that culminate in an output. The removal of Knowledge allows us to focus on a Process Group life cycle applying Performance Domains that allows us to leverage the 12 Principles driving behavior to achieve outcomes in each domain. Curious what others think?
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1 reply by Helder Jose Celani de Souza
Jan 03, 2023 1:35 PM
Helder Jose Celani de Souza
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In my opinion, the Knowledge areas removal brings more simplicity to the waterfall PM lifecycle understanding once they are implicit in the process within each process group. The PMBOK one-page model will be also simplified. I consider the PMI´s initiative to launch this standard will avoid confusion related to PMBOK use, once the 7th edition does not replace the 6th one.
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Thomas WalentaGlobal Project Economy ExpertHackenheim, Germany
Kevin
maybe a typo „the removal of knowledge allows us ..“. But telling.
Replace knowledge by beliefs (principles) and you get outcomes. Is that the hypothesis (belief)?
Before you can claim to achieve outcomes there has to be an output. Not caring about how to create outputs removes a lot of knowledge - and success. Saving Changes...
Kevin SwanzyDivision Sr Project Manager| HCA HealthcareHendersonville, Nc, United States
Thanks, not a typo but I missed a word. The removal of Knowledge Areas…
Processes provide the outputs with Performance Domains outcomes.
Knowledge Areas replaced with Performance Domains shifting our focus to outcomes. Saving Changes...
Yes, I agree. To me it seems that they want get benefit from both revision 6th and revision 7th of PMBOK. Saving Changes...
Stéphane ParentSelf Employed / Semi-retired| Leader MakerPrince Edward Island, Canada
Like Thomas, I think this is just the proverbial lipstick on the pig standards+ Saving Changes...
Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
It is the guide what should have been published time ago. In my opinion the PMI took the wrong strategy mainly when no public revision was on the guide. The PMI should recognize the error. Of course, if the PMI consider that it really was a mistake. Saving Changes...
Helder Jose Celani de SouzaCEO Founder, CIO - Chief Innovation Officer and University Professor| Lidproj Consulting CEO; OnSet CIO (Innnovation); Education Service ProvideSao Jose Dos Campos, SP, Brazil
Dec 15, 2022 10:49 PM
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I find this a fascinating topic and am also striving to understand Performance Domains and removal of Knowledge Areas. In the Critical Path blog “What are Performance Domains, and Why Should I Care?”, Cynthia Dionisio said
Performance Domains are are outcomes focused verses processes that culminate in an output. The removal of Knowledge allows us to focus on a Process Group life cycle applying Performance Domains that allows us to leverage the 12 Principles driving behavior to achieve outcomes in each domain. Curious what others think?
In my opinion, the Knowledge areas removal brings more simplicity to the waterfall PM lifecycle understanding once they are implicit in the process within each process group. The PMBOK one-page model will be also simplified. I consider the PMI´s initiative to launch this standard will avoid confusion related to PMBOK use, once the 7th edition does not replace the 6th one. Saving Changes...
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