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Brandon Godbey Or, United States
Hi there, I am in the process of preparing myself for a career change. I am currently a Service Director of a dealership. I have a about seven years of management/leadership experience. I do have experience leading minor projects from my current position.

Recently, I have finished 25 PDU hours to get the CAPM and plan on testing in about 3 weeks or so.

Going into this new field, I am wandering what I can expect.

How much of my experience will transfer for over to the role of PM?

I am currently making six figure salary. Going into the new field, can I expect the same with the experience that I have?

How can I stand out as an applicant going into the new filed without any specific dedicated PM work?
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Abolfazl Yousefi Darestani Manager, Quality and Continuous Improvement| Hörmann-TNR Industrial Doors Newmarket, Ontario, Canada
Answering some of these questions is really hard and has to do with a lot of factors.
I would say your best bet is finding a role in your industry. Chances are that they give a bonus point to the applicants with industry experience.
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Jorge Escoto Director of PM/PMO| CET Professionals Services San Pedro Sula, Cortes, Honduras
Don push a radical change unless you really "need" it (not just want it). Start smoothly seeking to manage more projects and let the transition flow.
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Keith Novak Tukwila, Wa, United States
Your prior experience should be a pretty good fit for a PM role. As an operations director, I would assume you have significant leadership and people skills including both reporting employees, and customers.

For technical skills, you are probably already responsible for staffing plans, budget, inventory, scheduling service appointments, adjusting plans when you find unexpected problems, etc. It may be different from some PM jobs that involve months or years of planning rather than days or weeks, but other positions will involve shorter activities and continuous improvement. If you look at PMI’s Disciplined Agile lifecycle types, operations and continuous delivery are included.

For strategic skills, you should consider how you can demonstrate enough industry knowledge to make value-based decision. General business concepts still apply, but change in different contexts.

As for salary, 6 figures is a broad range but typical salaries in the PNW are in the 100-200k range. Higher salaries might have very demanding schedules. A colleague left Amazon due to a mandatory 65 hour minimum workweek. Other jobs might be more technically focused and unless you have the domain knowledge you won’t command the top of the pay range. There is also often a trade between job stability, and compensation with higher pay to a less certain future.
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1 reply by Brandon Godbey
Jan 03, 2023 11:17 AM
Brandon Godbey
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Thank you so much Keith. That is very helpful and inspiring.
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Brandon Godbey Or, United States
Jan 03, 2023 11:09 AM
Replying to Keith Novak
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Your prior experience should be a pretty good fit for a PM role. As an operations director, I would assume you have significant leadership and people skills including both reporting employees, and customers.

For technical skills, you are probably already responsible for staffing plans, budget, inventory, scheduling service appointments, adjusting plans when you find unexpected problems, etc. It may be different from some PM jobs that involve months or years of planning rather than days or weeks, but other positions will involve shorter activities and continuous improvement. If you look at PMI’s Disciplined Agile lifecycle types, operations and continuous delivery are included.

For strategic skills, you should consider how you can demonstrate enough industry knowledge to make value-based decision. General business concepts still apply, but change in different contexts.

As for salary, 6 figures is a broad range but typical salaries in the PNW are in the 100-200k range. Higher salaries might have very demanding schedules. A colleague left Amazon due to a mandatory 65 hour minimum workweek. Other jobs might be more technically focused and unless you have the domain knowledge you won’t command the top of the pay range. There is also often a trade between job stability, and compensation with higher pay to a less certain future.
Thank you so much Keith. That is very helpful and inspiring.
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Thomas Walenta Global Project Economy Expert Hackenheim, Germany
Brandon,

you are right assuming that experience is more important than mere knowledge. CAPM is a good start, and you probably look for the PMP once you think you have the necessary experience to apply. It could very well be that the minor projects led by you and other activities as a service director qualify for being seen as project activities and sum up for the PMP requirements. It is mostly a matter of perspective.

Any leadership experience and that with customers will help as a project manager. PMI has a salary report published in which you can find reasonable ranges for your expectations.

Standing out as applicant is in my view that you have people in your network who can recommend you and you can use as references. So review and intensify your business network in this way. CAPM or even PMP are not sufficient to standout, no certifications are, only trust in your capability to perform. So have your war stories ready.

Project management is in its core make it happen.
And it is people business first.

Thomas
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1 reply by Brandon Godbey
Jan 03, 2023 12:26 PM
Brandon Godbey
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Thank you Thomas.
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Brandon Godbey Or, United States
Jan 03, 2023 12:15 PM
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Brandon,

you are right assuming that experience is more important than mere knowledge. CAPM is a good start, and you probably look for the PMP once you think you have the necessary experience to apply. It could very well be that the minor projects led by you and other activities as a service director qualify for being seen as project activities and sum up for the PMP requirements. It is mostly a matter of perspective.

Any leadership experience and that with customers will help as a project manager. PMI has a salary report published in which you can find reasonable ranges for your expectations.

Standing out as applicant is in my view that you have people in your network who can recommend you and you can use as references. So review and intensify your business network in this way. CAPM or even PMP are not sufficient to standout, no certifications are, only trust in your capability to perform. So have your war stories ready.

Project management is in its core make it happen.
And it is people business first.

Thomas
Thank you Thomas.
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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
In my opinion, this should be an easy transition from Operations Manager role to PM role as many of the tasks and activities are interrelated.

In general, your soft skills are transferable regardless of the industry but the technical skills is where it might be challenging, however, again, in your case I think it shouldn’t be an issue and quite frankly I highly recommend you look at getting your PMP directly instead of CAPM because I truly believe in your capacity as Operations Manager you did carry lots of project management activities. To quality for the PMP, you need 3 years of experience doing project management activities, regardless of your title.

Hope this helps.
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1 reply by Brandon Godbey
Jan 03, 2023 12:44 PM
Brandon Godbey
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Hi Rami, thank you very much. I am glad you mentioned doing the PMP instead. I believe I may have the experience and projects to go for it. I will look into that.
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Brandon Godbey Or, United States
Jan 03, 2023 12:39 PM
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In my opinion, this should be an easy transition from Operations Manager role to PM role as many of the tasks and activities are interrelated.

In general, your soft skills are transferable regardless of the industry but the technical skills is where it might be challenging, however, again, in your case I think it shouldn’t be an issue and quite frankly I highly recommend you look at getting your PMP directly instead of CAPM because I truly believe in your capacity as Operations Manager you did carry lots of project management activities. To quality for the PMP, you need 3 years of experience doing project management activities, regardless of your title.

Hope this helps.
Hi Rami, thank you very much. I am glad you mentioned doing the PMP instead. I believe I may have the experience and projects to go for it. I will look into that.
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Jan 03, 2023 4:06 PM
Rami Kaibni
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Glad to hear, Brandon. Good Luck!
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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Jan 03, 2023 12:44 PM
Replying to Brandon Godbey
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Hi Rami, thank you very much. I am glad you mentioned doing the PMP instead. I believe I may have the experience and projects to go for it. I will look into that.
Glad to hear, Brandon. Good Luck!
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Stéphane Parent Self Employed / Semi-retired| Leader Maker Prince Edward Island, Canada
I agree with Rami: you are way better off going straight for the PMP. The CAPM would not be representative of your current journey and achievements.
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1 reply by Brandon Godbey
Jan 05, 2023 2:32 PM
Brandon Godbey
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Thank you!
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