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Robert Frith New Zealand
Good morning from NZ,

I am currently attempting to spin up a project dealing with the following criteria:

Project organisation has very strong ethical and environmental values. As part of this, they want to become carbon neutral or better.

The project would be to calculate as accurately as possible the carbon footprint. Evaluate the improvement areas. Propose a solution with recommended changes to achieve this.



It should consider:

What value this can bring to the company.
What is the finical impact?
Is there any marketing value or opportunities?
How can this be sustained and reviewed?
The large environmental impact of this programme. i.e. non carbon – i.e. recycling etc.

I am in the process of calculating the C Footprint; however, I've picked up the idea that one shouldn't reinvent the wheel if possible (use expert knowledge where possible).

Could I ask/invite those of you working in the area, or with relevant experience to weigh in on this topic?

Here to learn and improve.

Thanks
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Keith Novak Tukwila, Wa, United States
This type of activity is a large element of systems architecture which is a blend of systems engineering and business management. It can get quite involved, but some of that depends on how much detail you want to take on.

It includes questions like how much of a premium are you willing to pay to choose lower carbon alternatives, and how much of your supply chain can you actually control. There are certainly values like goodwill, and market share where marketing consulting is required for valid statistics.

It is also highly dependent on the product itself. Carbon neutral construction for example is going to be very different from carbon neutral software.
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1 reply by Robert Frith
Mar 14, 2023 2:11 AM
Robert Frith
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Thank you my friend. Very useful, and along the lines I was already following. My thought is that I should strive for as much modularity as possible, simply because of the potential complexity.
Would be interested in your views/thoughts?
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Robert Frith New Zealand
Mar 13, 2023 11:26 PM
Replying to Keith Novak
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This type of activity is a large element of systems architecture which is a blend of systems engineering and business management. It can get quite involved, but some of that depends on how much detail you want to take on.

It includes questions like how much of a premium are you willing to pay to choose lower carbon alternatives, and how much of your supply chain can you actually control. There are certainly values like goodwill, and market share where marketing consulting is required for valid statistics.

It is also highly dependent on the product itself. Carbon neutral construction for example is going to be very different from carbon neutral software.
Thank you my friend. Very useful, and along the lines I was already following. My thought is that I should strive for as much modularity as possible, simply because of the potential complexity.
Would be interested in your views/thoughts?
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2 replies by Keith Novak and Thomas Walenta
Mar 14, 2023 3:34 AM
Thomas Walenta
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Robert,

yes modularity is a structural design feature to be considered, as it makes it possible to exchange modules during maintenance, improvement or replacement and also measure impact (value) locally, at the interfaces of the modules.

Besides modularity, also heterogenity and redundancy are structural design features supporting resilience and hence sustainability.

You also need to consider dynamic design criteria, as they make up the behavior of the system as a whole over time and reflecting inter-module behaviors. These are being context-aware (sense and response), adaptive and mindful.

Practically, I would look at industries that already have a system for Carbon management. Like energy, transport, buildings.

On a more philosophical level, or you might call it a mindset, look at how your project (the people in your project) defines time. If it is linear, as usual, looking strongly at growth and risks, the mindset does not support sustainability. You need to come to a cyclical view of time, adapt to natural ups and downs, day/night, seasons, life/death etc. Cyclical economy is just a glimpse in that direction and might even be a distraction.
Mar 14, 2023 11:14 AM
Keith Novak
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Modularity can help you or hurt you in terms of lifecycle carbon output.

Modules are tightly integrated segments of a larger system with few interface points to the rest of the system. That can help you with a right-sized system, such as a series of solar panels where you can simply daisy-chain them together to reach your desired capacity.

Modularity must be designed into a system and that plug and play capability adds extra work. That may mean longer development time which equals more employee commuting, heating the building etc. It also includes things like system breaks which require more hardware. I can wire 2 boxes directly together, or I can wire both to some disconnect device. That device takes energy to build, materials, etc.

When looking at a carbon footprint of a complete system lifecycle, there are lots of both little and big trade-offs to consider. That is where the engineering can become quite involved.
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Thomas Walenta Global Project Economy Expert Hackenheim, Germany
Mar 14, 2023 2:11 AM
Replying to Robert Frith
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Thank you my friend. Very useful, and along the lines I was already following. My thought is that I should strive for as much modularity as possible, simply because of the potential complexity.
Would be interested in your views/thoughts?
Robert,

yes modularity is a structural design feature to be considered, as it makes it possible to exchange modules during maintenance, improvement or replacement and also measure impact (value) locally, at the interfaces of the modules.

Besides modularity, also heterogenity and redundancy are structural design features supporting resilience and hence sustainability.

You also need to consider dynamic design criteria, as they make up the behavior of the system as a whole over time and reflecting inter-module behaviors. These are being context-aware (sense and response), adaptive and mindful.

Practically, I would look at industries that already have a system for Carbon management. Like energy, transport, buildings.

On a more philosophical level, or you might call it a mindset, look at how your project (the people in your project) defines time. If it is linear, as usual, looking strongly at growth and risks, the mindset does not support sustainability. You need to come to a cyclical view of time, adapt to natural ups and downs, day/night, seasons, life/death etc. Cyclical economy is just a glimpse in that direction and might even be a distraction.
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1 reply by Robert Frith
Mar 14, 2023 4:17 AM
Robert Frith
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Hi Thomas,

Thank you for both the reply and the connection. Still feeling my way in terms of building my professional network, and my online brand in this profession.

With regard to your answer, and especially considering your terms for module design, HOW would you make them heterogeneous (unique?) and yet redundant? By my understanding that almost argues a primary and a secondary backup of almost if not the same characteristics?

I like the idea of cyclical time though...my client has stated he is of a 'hippie' mindset, so if I were to sell him the idea of the cyclical view, he might just go for it.

Appreciate you taking the time to mentor a young Padawan...

Rob
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Robert Frith New Zealand
Mar 14, 2023 3:34 AM
Replying to Thomas Walenta
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Robert,

yes modularity is a structural design feature to be considered, as it makes it possible to exchange modules during maintenance, improvement or replacement and also measure impact (value) locally, at the interfaces of the modules.

Besides modularity, also heterogenity and redundancy are structural design features supporting resilience and hence sustainability.

You also need to consider dynamic design criteria, as they make up the behavior of the system as a whole over time and reflecting inter-module behaviors. These are being context-aware (sense and response), adaptive and mindful.

Practically, I would look at industries that already have a system for Carbon management. Like energy, transport, buildings.

On a more philosophical level, or you might call it a mindset, look at how your project (the people in your project) defines time. If it is linear, as usual, looking strongly at growth and risks, the mindset does not support sustainability. You need to come to a cyclical view of time, adapt to natural ups and downs, day/night, seasons, life/death etc. Cyclical economy is just a glimpse in that direction and might even be a distraction.
Hi Thomas,

Thank you for both the reply and the connection. Still feeling my way in terms of building my professional network, and my online brand in this profession.

With regard to your answer, and especially considering your terms for module design, HOW would you make them heterogeneous (unique?) and yet redundant? By my understanding that almost argues a primary and a secondary backup of almost if not the same characteristics?

I like the idea of cyclical time though...my client has stated he is of a 'hippie' mindset, so if I were to sell him the idea of the cyclical view, he might just go for it.

Appreciate you taking the time to mentor a young Padawan...

Rob
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1 reply by Thomas Walenta
Mar 14, 2023 5:25 AM
Thomas Walenta
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Hi Robert,

my pleasure to discuss with people looking for new perspectives, like you.

The idea about modularity is from this HBE 01/2026 article https://hbr.org/2016/01/the-biology-of-corporate-survival

Heterogenous and redundancy depend on the existence of modules (which are parts of a system with defined boundaries).

You could have homogenous modules, so all of them are somehow equally built and have the same functions, organizations do that sometimes for scaling purposes and then are surprised if all of them become obsolete at one point of time. Not resilient but may be efficient.

Redundancy means that the same functionality of a module can be supplied by other types of modules, like in a workaround or an alternative route in supply chains. It could also be achieved simply but short-sighted by just multiplying existing modules, which again is not resilient or sustainable.

Regarding the time mindsets, look here
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/thwalenta_p...9822614528-i7Qz

Another perspective is the difference between western (US, Europe) views on time and Chinese. Western cultures have been influenced over 10thousands years by a hunter/gatherer mindset, focusing on quick and immediate results (shoot and aim). Needed for survival but short sighted and unsustainable.

China in contrast benefited from vast good soils to grow food which supported a mindset of farming/agriculture which enables long term thinking, patience and inherent agility (reacting to weather). If you need to think a year ahead for your tribe to survive, you develop a strong will and - while thinking ahead - understand cyclic timing (which also makes Chinese strategy more resilient).
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Thomas Walenta Global Project Economy Expert Hackenheim, Germany
Mar 14, 2023 4:17 AM
Replying to Robert Frith
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Hi Thomas,

Thank you for both the reply and the connection. Still feeling my way in terms of building my professional network, and my online brand in this profession.

With regard to your answer, and especially considering your terms for module design, HOW would you make them heterogeneous (unique?) and yet redundant? By my understanding that almost argues a primary and a secondary backup of almost if not the same characteristics?

I like the idea of cyclical time though...my client has stated he is of a 'hippie' mindset, so if I were to sell him the idea of the cyclical view, he might just go for it.

Appreciate you taking the time to mentor a young Padawan...

Rob
Hi Robert,

my pleasure to discuss with people looking for new perspectives, like you.

The idea about modularity is from this HBE 01/2026 article https://hbr.org/2016/01/the-biology-of-corporate-survival

Heterogenous and redundancy depend on the existence of modules (which are parts of a system with defined boundaries).

You could have homogenous modules, so all of them are somehow equally built and have the same functions, organizations do that sometimes for scaling purposes and then are surprised if all of them become obsolete at one point of time. Not resilient but may be efficient.

Redundancy means that the same functionality of a module can be supplied by other types of modules, like in a workaround or an alternative route in supply chains. It could also be achieved simply but short-sighted by just multiplying existing modules, which again is not resilient or sustainable.

Regarding the time mindsets, look here
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/thwalenta_p...9822614528-i7Qz

Another perspective is the difference between western (US, Europe) views on time and Chinese. Western cultures have been influenced over 10thousands years by a hunter/gatherer mindset, focusing on quick and immediate results (shoot and aim). Needed for survival but short sighted and unsustainable.

China in contrast benefited from vast good soils to grow food which supported a mindset of farming/agriculture which enables long term thinking, patience and inherent agility (reacting to weather). If you need to think a year ahead for your tribe to survive, you develop a strong will and - while thinking ahead - understand cyclic timing (which also makes Chinese strategy more resilient).
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Thomas Walenta Global Project Economy Expert Hackenheim, Germany
Robert, to add an example

https://www.nzta.govt.nz/projects/wellingt...gully-motorway/

I visited the project some years ago and was amazed about its sustainability design. For example, many highway bridges in Germany are in a mess right now, 50 years after they have been built.
The NZ motorway bridges have a much higher risk due to earthquakes and floodings than German ones. Yet they have been designed to hold 500 (five hundred) years. And much of that mindset seems to be brought in by your native Maori.

One Maori Board member of a local NGO told me that their overarching principle is to become good ancestors. What a strong statement.

So your society at least has 2 modules, native and English decedents. These are redundant (in many ways, reproduction, value creation etc) and heterogenous.
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1 reply by Robert Frith
Mar 14, 2023 4:38 PM
Robert Frith
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Thank you Thomas,

That is very insightful. I spent a significant part of my life in the NZ Army serving with many Maori and PI soldiers. As someone of primarily European descent (although I do claim 6th generation NZ on my mother's side), I have struggled in the past with the Maori viewpoint. However, with the assistance of some of my comrades-in-arms, I have begun working on my own perspective into what it means to be a Kiwi.

For example, I can whakapapa to Ngati Tumatuenga (God of War) as a result of my service. I am also changing my viewpoint as the result of an experience I had with a juvenile Hammerhead shark (Mangopare; as per my picture) where I am using the attributes of Mangopare (Strength, Agility, and Tenacity, as well as the ability to see 360 degrees) in my own approach to my career, and indeed to life.

Sounds weird, I know...but it seems to work thus far, so a good argument for continuing to follow the route.
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Maria Hrabikova
Community Champion
Ricany U Prahy, Prague, Czechia
Robert,
Here is a concrete example of how the remote village of #Stithians (Cornwall, England) has pioneered decarbonizing heating.

The #decarbonization of heating systems represents one of the most critical milestones in achieving net zero. Heat pumps are emerging as a solution to the problem of building electrification. What is a heat pump? The technology, put simply, uses the available heat from the ground or air to generate the energy needed for heating, cooling, and domestic hot water. A need for more understanding and awareness of the technology, high upfront costs, and few trained installers increase the complexity of decarbonizing the sector. There are opponents and advocates of the solution. According to the World Economic Forum, heat pumps only supplied 10% of the heating for all buildings globally in 2021. For instance, in the UK, 74% of people heat their homes using #gasboilers, leading the sector to account for about 33% of the UK's greenhouse gas emissions (Townend, 2023; WEF, 2023).

The Cornish village getting its heat from beneath the street
https://www.ft.com/content/daa580f1-eed9-456e-8843-e55f8e34385a

The enormous heat pumps warming cities
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/2023013...have-heat-pumps

A Heat Pump Might Be Right for Your Home. Here’s Everything to Know.
https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/guides/...times&smtyp=cur

Good luck!
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1 reply by Robert Frith
Mar 14, 2023 4:41 PM
Robert Frith
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Thank you Maria.

Some good reading there. Very much appreciated.
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Abolfazl Yousefi Darestani Manager, Quality and Continuous Improvement| Hörmann-TNR Industrial Doors Newmarket, Ontario, Canada
Your best bet is to ask the question in a technical community.
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Keith Novak Tukwila, Wa, United States
Mar 14, 2023 2:11 AM
Replying to Robert Frith
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Thank you my friend. Very useful, and along the lines I was already following. My thought is that I should strive for as much modularity as possible, simply because of the potential complexity.
Would be interested in your views/thoughts?
Modularity can help you or hurt you in terms of lifecycle carbon output.

Modules are tightly integrated segments of a larger system with few interface points to the rest of the system. That can help you with a right-sized system, such as a series of solar panels where you can simply daisy-chain them together to reach your desired capacity.

Modularity must be designed into a system and that plug and play capability adds extra work. That may mean longer development time which equals more employee commuting, heating the building etc. It also includes things like system breaks which require more hardware. I can wire 2 boxes directly together, or I can wire both to some disconnect device. That device takes energy to build, materials, etc.

When looking at a carbon footprint of a complete system lifecycle, there are lots of both little and big trade-offs to consider. That is where the engineering can become quite involved.
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Robert Frith New Zealand
Mar 14, 2023 5:35 AM
Replying to Thomas Walenta
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Robert, to add an example

https://www.nzta.govt.nz/projects/wellingt...gully-motorway/

I visited the project some years ago and was amazed about its sustainability design. For example, many highway bridges in Germany are in a mess right now, 50 years after they have been built.
The NZ motorway bridges have a much higher risk due to earthquakes and floodings than German ones. Yet they have been designed to hold 500 (five hundred) years. And much of that mindset seems to be brought in by your native Maori.

One Maori Board member of a local NGO told me that their overarching principle is to become good ancestors. What a strong statement.

So your society at least has 2 modules, native and English decedents. These are redundant (in many ways, reproduction, value creation etc) and heterogenous.
Thank you Thomas,

That is very insightful. I spent a significant part of my life in the NZ Army serving with many Maori and PI soldiers. As someone of primarily European descent (although I do claim 6th generation NZ on my mother's side), I have struggled in the past with the Maori viewpoint. However, with the assistance of some of my comrades-in-arms, I have begun working on my own perspective into what it means to be a Kiwi.

For example, I can whakapapa to Ngati Tumatuenga (God of War) as a result of my service. I am also changing my viewpoint as the result of an experience I had with a juvenile Hammerhead shark (Mangopare; as per my picture) where I am using the attributes of Mangopare (Strength, Agility, and Tenacity, as well as the ability to see 360 degrees) in my own approach to my career, and indeed to life.

Sounds weird, I know...but it seems to work thus far, so a good argument for continuing to follow the route.
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