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Have you implemented BIM workflows in your processes?

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Noel Makagutu Architect & PM| Self employed Nairobi, Kenya
Have you implemented BIM workflows in your processes? To what extent?

Are there real benefits?
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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
There are lots of benefits to utilizing BIM of which some are:

1) Improved Accuracy and reduction in drawings discrepancies.
2) Clash detection, risk mitigation and reduction in change orders.
3) Increased Productivity and Efficiency.
4) Enhanced Communication, Coordination and Collaboration.

Those are real benefits and I am talking our of my own professinal experience.
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1 reply by Noel Makagutu
Feb 08, 2024 10:58 PM
Noel Makagutu
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Hey Rami,
have the consultants you work with also implemented BIM or is this just within your organization? Do your clients ask for BIM capabilities or this was an organizational decision?
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Noel Makagutu Architect & PM| Self employed Nairobi, Kenya
Feb 08, 2024 7:08 PM
Replying to Rami Kaibni
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There are lots of benefits to utilizing BIM of which some are:

1) Improved Accuracy and reduction in drawings discrepancies.
2) Clash detection, risk mitigation and reduction in change orders.
3) Increased Productivity and Efficiency.
4) Enhanced Communication, Coordination and Collaboration.

Those are real benefits and I am talking our of my own professinal experience.
Hey Rami,
have the consultants you work with also implemented BIM or is this just within your organization? Do your clients ask for BIM capabilities or this was an organizational decision?
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Feb 08, 2024 11:23 PM
Rami Kaibni
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Noel, I experienced two different environments:

1) Back in 2007, I was in Qatar working for an International Large Organization and our projects were DB so we used BIM across all disciplines and that was an organizational decision because it served the project better in many ways.

2) Currently, I work in a different setting where I am the Owner Rep/Client and we do request in our RFP from all our consultants to use Revit (Which is the BIM software used in North America).

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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Feb 08, 2024 10:58 PM
Replying to Noel Makagutu
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Hey Rami,
have the consultants you work with also implemented BIM or is this just within your organization? Do your clients ask for BIM capabilities or this was an organizational decision?

Noel, I experienced two different environments:

1) Back in 2007, I was in Qatar working for an International Large Organization and our projects were DB so we used BIM across all disciplines and that was an organizational decision because it served the project better in many ways.

2) Currently, I work in a different setting where I am the Owner Rep/Client and we do request in our RFP from all our consultants to use Revit (Which is the BIM software used in North America).

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1 reply by Noel Makagutu
Feb 09, 2024 10:23 AM
Noel Makagutu
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Quite interesting.
In my life of practice, only one client sent a tender that required BIM capability. We didn’t win the tender though I don’t think because of BIM but cost.

I have not had another client request for the same.

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Abolfazl Yousefi Darestani Manager, Quality and Continuous Improvement| Hörmann-TNR Industrial Doors Newmarket, Ontario, Canada
No. I have not.
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1 reply by Noel Makagutu
Feb 09, 2024 10:19 AM
Noel Makagutu
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Is there a reason for this, Abolfazi?
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Noel Makagutu Architect & PM| Self employed Nairobi, Kenya
Feb 09, 2024 9:08 AM
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No. I have not.
Is there a reason for this, Abolfazi?
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Noel Makagutu Architect & PM| Self employed Nairobi, Kenya
Feb 08, 2024 11:23 PM
Replying to Rami Kaibni
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Noel, I experienced two different environments:

1) Back in 2007, I was in Qatar working for an International Large Organization and our projects were DB so we used BIM across all disciplines and that was an organizational decision because it served the project better in many ways.

2) Currently, I work in a different setting where I am the Owner Rep/Client and we do request in our RFP from all our consultants to use Revit (Which is the BIM software used in North America).

Quite interesting.
In my life of practice, only one client sent a tender that required BIM capability. We didn’t win the tender though I don’t think because of BIM but cost.

I have not had another client request for the same.

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Keith Novak Tukwila, Wa, United States
Noel,
If you want to understand the BIM in broader terms, I would suggest reading about Model Based Systems Engineering (MBSE) and "digital twins". The technology is not quite in its infancy, but it is new enough that even many major aerospace technology companies are trying to figure out how to implement the technology and why.

The value certainly depends on the industry. In construction, if you find a problem it is much easier to fix than if it is orbiting 38,000 km above Earth. The value also depends on the technology of the people constructing the physical thing. If your engineering design relies on people right clicking an element of your design model to find the specifications of how to construct that design element, and the work crews don't have internet access, then where the value can be realized is very much constrained.
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1 reply by Noel Makagutu
Feb 09, 2024 1:53 PM
Noel Makagutu
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Hello Keith,
I will check this out and see what’s been written on it.
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Noel Makagutu Architect & PM| Self employed Nairobi, Kenya
Feb 09, 2024 1:04 PM
Replying to Keith Novak
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Noel,
If you want to understand the BIM in broader terms, I would suggest reading about Model Based Systems Engineering (MBSE) and "digital twins". The technology is not quite in its infancy, but it is new enough that even many major aerospace technology companies are trying to figure out how to implement the technology and why.

The value certainly depends on the industry. In construction, if you find a problem it is much easier to fix than if it is orbiting 38,000 km above Earth. The value also depends on the technology of the people constructing the physical thing. If your engineering design relies on people right clicking an element of your design model to find the specifications of how to construct that design element, and the work crews don't have internet access, then where the value can be realized is very much constrained.
Hello Keith,
I will check this out and see what’s been written on it.

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