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Defining Project and Program Complexity to assign Project/Program Managers

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Francisco Herrera
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Program Manager, PPM&PMO Specialist.| Coppel, Mexico. Culiacán, Sinaloa, Mexico
Can you share your experiences in defining the complexity and size of projects/programs to assign the appropriate project/program manager? Specifying the variables to use.
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Kiron Bondale Retired | Mentor| Retired Welland, Ontario, Canada
Francisco -

I'd suggest looking at the Disciplined Agile scaling factors map (https://www.pmi.org/disciplined-agile/agil...caling-factors) as that provides some dimensions to consider.

Kiron
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2 replies by Francisco Herrera
Apr 23, 2024 8:20 PM
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Thanks! I'll take a look!
Apr 23, 2024 8:25 PM
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Kiron could you please correct the link in the Thread? Looks like there is a type error!

https://www.pmi.org/disciplined-agile/agil...ing-factors
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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Francisco, I do recommend taking a look at the DA resources recommended by Kiron. That said, for each project and program, there are unique main factors to take into consideration when assessing complexity. For some, it could be Risk Level, for others it could be the Client itself (Big Client, New Client, Difficult Client) or it could be a mix of many factors. Regarding the size, each company defines size based on their own parameters, for example, for us any projects that extends beyond 2 years and has a budget of over $50 Mil is considered Medium size project, anything less, is small, anything more than $100 Mil is large so size is assessed based on time and budget.
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Apr 23, 2024 8:21 PM
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Excellent! I will definitely review them! Thank you!
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Keith Novak Tukwila, Wa, United States
The DA resources are excellent, although I got a 404 error on the link Kiron posted. I completely agree with Rami that you must assess each project in context and that terms like large and small are highly dependent on the business. I haven't created a formula, but will share my mental model for breaking down the context.

I consider where I think the project will be most difficult in 4 main categories:
a) Technical constraints
b) Economic constraints
c) Time constraints
d) Personality fit

Some senior PMs can take on anything. Some projects benefit from the right tech background, others from working through a lot of budget compromises or time crunches. Some people can work with different stakeholders better than others, and the stakeholders vary at different cost levels.

An important constraint to consider for the person assigning projects is that you often have limited choice on who is available at the right time. As my teammates or I start realizing that we are winding one project down, we start looking for the next so that we can get one we want. The ideal PM is already committed. The next best choice is who you can help coach in the areas where they are not the best fit and bring them up a level.
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2 replies by Aung Sint and Francisco Herrera
Apr 16, 2024 1:18 AM
Aung Sint
Apr 23, 2024 8:23 PM
Francisco Herrera
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I check the link and it has a type error at the end, this is the correct link:



https://www.pmi.org/disciplined-agile/agil...ing-factors



I liked the scheme! I will review it with my team!

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Aung Sint
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Lead Consultant| Laminar Projects
Apr 15, 2024 10:46 PM
Replying to Keith Novak
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The DA resources are excellent, although I got a 404 error on the link Kiron posted. I completely agree with Rami that you must assess each project in context and that terms like large and small are highly dependent on the business. I haven't created a formula, but will share my mental model for breaking down the context.

I consider where I think the project will be most difficult in 4 main categories:
a) Technical constraints
b) Economic constraints
c) Time constraints
d) Personality fit

Some senior PMs can take on anything. Some projects benefit from the right tech background, others from working through a lot of budget compromises or time crunches. Some people can work with different stakeholders better than others, and the stakeholders vary at different cost levels.

An important constraint to consider for the person assigning projects is that you often have limited choice on who is available at the right time. As my teammates or I start realizing that we are winding one project down, we start looking for the next so that we can get one we want. The ideal PM is already committed. The next best choice is who you can help coach in the areas where they are not the best fit and bring them up a level.
Keith, try this https://www.pmi.org/disciplined-agile/agil...scaling-factors
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1 reply by Francisco Herrera
Apr 23, 2024 8:26 PM
Francisco Herrera
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Thanks Aung it worked!
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Sergio Luis Conte Helping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based Organizations Buenos Aires, Argentina
My recommendation is taking a look to SAFe approach to define value streams and development streams. You can take a look to Amplio approach which is Al Shalloway approach. It is useful no matter you do not use Agile/Lean based approaches in you life cycle.
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1 reply by Francisco Herrera
Apr 23, 2024 8:33 PM
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Interesting Sergio Thanks, I found somy posts in LinkedIn, I will check them!
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/alshalloway...201911297-jUFM/
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Francisco Herrera
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Program Manager, PPM&PMO Specialist.| Coppel, Mexico. Culiacán, Sinaloa, Mexico
Apr 14, 2024 6:45 PM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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Francisco -

I'd suggest looking at the Disciplined Agile scaling factors map (https://www.pmi.org/disciplined-agile/agil...caling-factors) as that provides some dimensions to consider.

Kiron
Thanks! I'll take a look!
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Francisco Herrera
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Program Manager, PPM&PMO Specialist.| Coppel, Mexico. Culiacán, Sinaloa, Mexico
Apr 15, 2024 2:12 PM
Replying to Rami Kaibni
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Francisco, I do recommend taking a look at the DA resources recommended by Kiron. That said, for each project and program, there are unique main factors to take into consideration when assessing complexity. For some, it could be Risk Level, for others it could be the Client itself (Big Client, New Client, Difficult Client) or it could be a mix of many factors. Regarding the size, each company defines size based on their own parameters, for example, for us any projects that extends beyond 2 years and has a budget of over $50 Mil is considered Medium size project, anything less, is small, anything more than $100 Mil is large so size is assessed based on time and budget.
Excellent! I will definitely review them! Thank you!
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Francisco Herrera
Community Champion
Program Manager, PPM&PMO Specialist.| Coppel, Mexico. Culiacán, Sinaloa, Mexico
Apr 15, 2024 10:46 PM
Replying to Keith Novak
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The DA resources are excellent, although I got a 404 error on the link Kiron posted. I completely agree with Rami that you must assess each project in context and that terms like large and small are highly dependent on the business. I haven't created a formula, but will share my mental model for breaking down the context.

I consider where I think the project will be most difficult in 4 main categories:
a) Technical constraints
b) Economic constraints
c) Time constraints
d) Personality fit

Some senior PMs can take on anything. Some projects benefit from the right tech background, others from working through a lot of budget compromises or time crunches. Some people can work with different stakeholders better than others, and the stakeholders vary at different cost levels.

An important constraint to consider for the person assigning projects is that you often have limited choice on who is available at the right time. As my teammates or I start realizing that we are winding one project down, we start looking for the next so that we can get one we want. The ideal PM is already committed. The next best choice is who you can help coach in the areas where they are not the best fit and bring them up a level.

I check the link and it has a type error at the end, this is the correct link:



https://www.pmi.org/disciplined-agile/agil...ing-factors



I liked the scheme! I will review it with my team!

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Francisco Herrera
Community Champion
Program Manager, PPM&PMO Specialist.| Coppel, Mexico. Culiacán, Sinaloa, Mexico
Apr 14, 2024 6:45 PM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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Francisco -

I'd suggest looking at the Disciplined Agile scaling factors map (https://www.pmi.org/disciplined-agile/agil...caling-factors) as that provides some dimensions to consider.

Kiron
Kiron could you please correct the link in the Thread? Looks like there is a type error!

https://www.pmi.org/disciplined-agile/agil...ing-factors
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Francisco Herrera
Community Champion
Program Manager, PPM&PMO Specialist.| Coppel, Mexico. Culiacán, Sinaloa, Mexico
Apr 16, 2024 1:18 AM
Replying to Aung Sint
Thanks Aung it worked!
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