Jean Laval Chue HimDirector| Stella Aurorae Accountants Pty LtdSydney, Nsw, Australia
The Geographical Positioning System is first of all a CONCEPT. It can be implemented using many technologies. Just like The Internet is a Concept that evolves with new technologies. The CONCEPTS remain. These were CONCEPTUALISED first by the inventor then the implementations were done using appropriate technologies. So the CONCEPTS never die just like a Maths Theorem. Although these CONCEPTS were implemented they were developed first as Proof of Concepts and proven they will work Logically.
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Yes, I agree. I’ve managed projects involving IoT devices and ML forecasting, and over time I realized that—even though the technologies are very different, the core concept behind them is often the same: collect data, process it, and use it to make smarter decisions. The tools evolve, but the underlying idea stays consistent.
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Apr 18, 2025 6:16 PM
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Thanks for your insights Mayte.
Regards. Jean Laval
Interesting perspective! GPS can be seen as both a concept and a technology originating as an idea to solve location tracking, then brought to life through satellite systems. Like many innovations, the concept lays the foundation, and technology makes it real.
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Apr 18, 2025 6:17 PM
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Thanks, Pavan for your interesting comment.
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Jean Laval Chue HimDirector| Stella Aurorae Accountants Pty LtdSydney, Nsw, Australia
Apr 18, 2025 10:07 AM
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Yes, I agree. I’ve managed projects involving IoT devices and ML forecasting, and over time I realized that—even though the technologies are very different, the core concept behind them is often the same: collect data, process it, and use it to make smarter decisions. The tools evolve, but the underlying idea stays consistent.
Thanks for your insights Mayte.
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Jean Laval Chue HimDirector| Stella Aurorae Accountants Pty LtdSydney, Nsw, Australia
Apr 18, 2025 10:18 AM
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Interesting perspective! GPS can be seen as both a concept and a technology originating as an idea to solve location tracking, then brought to life through satellite systems. Like many innovations, the concept lays the foundation, and technology makes it real.
Thanks, Pavan for your interesting comment.
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Jean Laval Chue HimDirector| Stella Aurorae Accountants Pty LtdSydney, Nsw, Australia
Hi Mayte and Pavan, Your insights confirm to me that there must be a story to every invention or discovery. Innovations, inventions and discoveries do not come out of thin air. There needs to be a REAL MOTIVATION and a purpose. It could be to become rich or famous, or some other worthy cause. Maybe sometimes chance, accidental discoveries may also happen in the process of invention and innovation. And, the story of the innovation and invention should stand historical scrutiny and scientific scrutiny otherwise it may be plagiarism and the invention and innovation, maybe from somebody else to the one making claims about the invention. Recently there have been many research papers retracted for plagiarism in leading scientific journals. What do you think of my expose?
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Apr 18, 2025 7:21 PM
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Well said! Every invention does have a story driven by a real need, curiosity, or even a happy accident. Purpose and motivation often spark innovation, and giving credit where it’s due is key to keeping science and history honest.
Hi Mayte and Pavan, Your insights confirm to me that there must be a story to every invention or discovery. Innovations, inventions and discoveries do not come out of thin air. There needs to be a REAL MOTIVATION and a purpose. It could be to become rich or famous, or some other worthy cause. Maybe sometimes chance, accidental discoveries may also happen in the process of invention and innovation. And, the story of the innovation and invention should stand historical scrutiny and scientific scrutiny otherwise it may be plagiarism and the invention and innovation, maybe from somebody else to the one making claims about the invention. Recently there have been many research papers retracted for plagiarism in leading scientific journals. What do you think of my expose?
Well said! Every invention does have a story driven by a real need, curiosity, or even a happy accident. Purpose and motivation often spark innovation, and giving credit where it’s due is key to keeping science and history honest.
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Jean Laval Chue HimDirector| Stella Aurorae Accountants Pty LtdSydney, Nsw, Australia
Locating one's position from known reference points is a concept. It can be done via many ways including land surveying, which is much more precise than GPS, albeit much slower.
GPS is capitalized as a proper noun because it is a specific technology requiring an integrated system to identify one's location using a very specific methodology. You can patent a technology, but not a concept.
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Apr 18, 2025 10:11 PM
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Yes Keith a concept can be an R&D project just like the blue-print lightweight prototype concept of low orbit satellite internet, but you need specific technology implementation for patenting, like StarLink..Just like in Australia, you can register an R&D project for R&D grant but then you need to implement the concept in a specific implementation to patent it. However, just like Internet Satellite, although the concept remains the same, technology is evolving and new telecommunications technologies like 6G and 7G are being patented regularly. But Concepts are vital before any new technology can be implemented. For example the concept of making diamonds in labs using graphite. The concept must be proven logically feasible first then an appropriate technology/engineering process can be developed to make the concept become a reality. I suppose, we could call the conceptual part Pure Science or Fundamental Science, just like Pure Maths discoveries and concepts are needed first, which can then be applied in Physics and Chemistry for example, to develop new Engineering technologies. So I believe a country needs both Pure Science and Applied Science/Engineering to lead in technology. A country that can lead in both will be a world leader.
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Jean Laval Chue HimDirector| Stella Aurorae Accountants Pty LtdSydney, Nsw, Australia
Apr 18, 2025 9:33 PM
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Locating one's position from known reference points is a concept. It can be done via many ways including land surveying, which is much more precise than GPS, albeit much slower.
GPS is capitalized as a proper noun because it is a specific technology requiring an integrated system to identify one's location using a very specific methodology. You can patent a technology, but not a concept.
Yes Keith a concept can be an R&D project just like the blue-print lightweight prototype concept of low orbit satellite internet, but you need specific technology implementation for patenting, like StarLink..Just like in Australia, you can register an R&D project for R&D grant but then you need to implement the concept in a specific implementation to patent it. However, just like Internet Satellite, although the concept remains the same, technology is evolving and new telecommunications technologies like 6G and 7G are being patented regularly. But Concepts are vital before any new technology can be implemented. For example the concept of making diamonds in labs using graphite. The concept must be proven logically feasible first then an appropriate technology/engineering process can be developed to make the concept become a reality. I suppose, we could call the conceptual part Pure Science or Fundamental Science, just like Pure Maths discoveries and concepts are needed first, which can then be applied in Physics and Chemistry for example, to develop new Engineering technologies. So I believe a country needs both Pure Science and Applied Science/Engineering to lead in technology. A country that can lead in both will be a world leader.
Jean,
A patentable idea doesn't actually need to be implemented. It must be new, useful, non-obvious, and "enableable" (feasible) in Australian law. I have a few patents that we proved were technically feasible but never made it into the final product.
The non-obvious part is quite difficult to prove with enough legal precision to satisfy the patent departments. "Here is why the new idea goes beyond the prior art in a novel way to achieve an objective..."
This is very pertinent to your original point about GPS as a concept or technology. There is an amazing amount of specificity required for GPS to work as we know it today. Issues such as frequencies, data encoding, position calculation, etc. must be solved and integrated into a functioning system. Even Einstein's special relativity actually matters.
The Systems Engineering discipline is in large part dedicated to how you define all those things that make the difference between an interesting idea, and a workable design.
Keith
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Apr 23, 2025 7:38 PM
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Hi Keith, I would like to add that according to my experience in R&D, developing a technology like GPS, The Internet or Pixels, does not require prior knowledge of All the engineering and all the science to make the product. As we go along we learn and discover more and do more research. So that finally, we have a working product. And with new technologies discovered the product adapts and evolves, That is why such innovation/invention like these are not a lone man's endeavour but a team of Professors and other experts and even undergrads and postgrads.
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man."