Agile practices or Agile Software Development or Agile project Development is becoming successful all over the world and trending as most of the companies following it. In such scenario, my concern or doubts are:
1. Does traditional model based processes supported by PMBOK guide will become obsolete even though the guide talks about progressive elaboration / rolling wave planning?
2. If so what will be future of PMPs who are not practicing agile ?
3. Does the global industry inclining towards agile will prefer more PMI-ACPs or CSM rather than PMPs in future ?
Please correct me If my concerns/doubts are wrong. Because i followed/following traditional waterfall model in most of my career and following PMBOK Guide after becoming PMP . Saving Changes...
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Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
Agile project development does not exists as a concept. What exists is project management practices where you can apply agile concept which is far to be IT or software related only. I am talking about that from 2010 inside the PMI World Tour in several countries. Unfortunatelly a lot of confusion exists inside the project management community. Saving Changes...
Thank you Sergio. Sorry. I have wrongly written. It has to be Agile Project Management. i have corrected it. But my concern about the future of PMPs and its impact on processes of PMBOK guide. Saving Changes...
Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
No problem. So, let me say, Agile project management does not exist. What exists is project management as PMI style (or other) where you can apply agile concept. There is no impact except for some tools are not listed inside the PMBOK. But it is no problem with that. I am using techniques that are not listed inside the PMBOK and the PMBOK is not intended to contain all existing techniques. The future is that the market clear understand what agile is, stop of using agile word as an adjective for everything, stop using agile when the right thing to say is agile software development. Agile is not a mehod, agile is not a methodology. My recommendation is to read all related to Toyota and USA DoD NSF/Agile Forum which is contained into Rick Dove´s book "Response Ability" Saving Changes...
Arthur AcciolyArthur Accioly, PMP| Redline Trading SolutionsNj, United States
Ganesh, remember, Agile it''s the generic concept that came out of the Agile Manifesto and has many different flavors, like Scrum, Kanban, XP, etc. (you can google more about it). PMP is a global framework where you can adopt any technique with it, including agile (correct me if I''m wrong Sergio). I can see PMP impacting mainly the rolling wave technique on IT (what doesn''t means that rolling wave is bad, just means that we can/should use it more for other areas than IT and software development - I suggest reading the book "Essential Scrum"). More than that, if you take a look at PMP, you can see that both methods are mentioned and that we even have a PMI certification focused on Agile, the PMI-ACP. More info here: http://www.pmi.org/certification.aspx Saving Changes...
Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
Agile does not came up with the agile manifesto. Agile Softwre Debelopment came out with the agile manifesto and the right name is Mainifesto for Agile Software Development. This is a critical thing to understand. And that is because you can find a agile software extension for the PMBOK (I was part). Agile is not IT or Software related and exists before the manifesto. Saving Changes...
Arthur AcciolyArthur Accioly, PMP| Redline Trading SolutionsNj, United States
Interesting, thank you for the clarification Sergio, I misunderstood this part (I''m not an expert in Agile, I''m just reading my first book "Essential Scrum"). Saving Changes...
Thanks heaps Sergio and Arthur. I am learning agile and scrum now.What i learned so far in scrum, is that there is no project manager who will have "command and control".It has master scrum master who is like a facilitator and scrum development team will collaborate with each other take collective decision and more as a self organized team.More over agile does not give more importance for performance reporting management .Instead it has daily scrum meeting .It supports TDD approach. So it seems most of the agile practices contradict with traditional model supported by processes of PMBOK Guide .Scum Reference card says its approaches are opposed to plan driven approaches described by PMBOK Guide. If so how can we say PMP is a global framework ? Please clarify . Please correct me if am wrong. Saving Changes...
Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
That what I tried to say. You are learning a method which have a lice cycle that helps to you in implementing agile to your initiative. One of the conferences I have the opportunity to perform is showing people that traditional agile software development methods (now becomes agile solution delivery methods) like SCRUM, DSDM, etc fully implements project management practices as described into PMBOK. You need to split the practices (PMBOK) from the project life cycle. I can apply agile with plan driven approaches. Saving Changes...
Thank you so much Sergio.I got clarified. Saving Changes...
Wayne MackRetired| RetiredSouth Riding, Va, United States
I suspect that PMBoK will become obsolete at least in software development due to agile. When an organization adopts agile and frequent delivery practices, there is no longer any need to organize work as projects. Unless PMBoK shifts drastically to embrace non-project-based work, it will no longer be relevant. Saving Changes...
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