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In AON, what do the arrows between the circles demonstrate ?

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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
While answering a question on PMChallenge on the website, I bumped into this question with the following choices in terms of answers:

A- The logical relationship that exists between each activities.
B- A shared resource between one activity and another.
C- Critical Path
D- None of the Above

I chose "A" for an answer but it was wrong the they gave the correct answer as "D".

Well, first, starting with the question itself, AON uses boxes or rectangles which represent activities and not circles and as per PMBOK, the activities are linked by one or more logical relationships to show the sequence of activities so the arrows should be represnting these logical relationships.

It is either the Question and/or Answer are wrong or there is something that I did overlook or did not understand properly.
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Tim PM Project Manager| NHS Yes, United Kingdom
Rami, why not bundle up all your many questions into one blog, to make them easier for people to respond to
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Dec 17, 2015 4:49 AM
Rami Kaibni
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Tim, this is very irrelevant to the subject but thanks for your opinion and point of view. However, I totally disagree for the following reasons:

1- Questions belong under discussions, which is the main purpose of this section.
2- Questions are not sort of article, experience or knowledge sharing so they definitely do not belong under the blog especially that each member is allowed one main blog here.
3- Different questions address totally different subjects.
4- Addressing different questions with different subjects separately makes it easier for people to respond to and give them flexibility to answer the questions they have answers for and leave others without embarrasement.
5- Bundling different questions all together in one big paper will look boring to the reader or some sort of survey and I am positive I won't be receiving the same positive feedback I am receiving at the moment.

I honestly do not understand why do you think addressing different questions seperately makes it harder for people to respond, maybe you can ellaborate more. You are always welcome to address the subject further via Inbox Message as well because our discussion on this matter here is very irrelevant to the question in hand and at the same time, would appreciate your input on the above mentioned question.
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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Dec 17, 2015 4:21 AM
Replying to Tim PM
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Rami, why not bundle up all your many questions into one blog, to make them easier for people to respond to
Tim, this is very irrelevant to the subject but thanks for your opinion and point of view. However, I totally disagree for the following reasons:

1- Questions belong under discussions, which is the main purpose of this section.
2- Questions are not sort of article, experience or knowledge sharing so they definitely do not belong under the blog especially that each member is allowed one main blog here.
3- Different questions address totally different subjects.
4- Addressing different questions with different subjects separately makes it easier for people to respond to and give them flexibility to answer the questions they have answers for and leave others without embarrasement.
5- Bundling different questions all together in one big paper will look boring to the reader or some sort of survey and I am positive I won't be receiving the same positive feedback I am receiving at the moment.

I honestly do not understand why do you think addressing different questions seperately makes it harder for people to respond, maybe you can ellaborate more. You are always welcome to address the subject further via Inbox Message as well because our discussion on this matter here is very irrelevant to the question in hand and at the same time, would appreciate your input on the above mentioned question.
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1 reply by Tim PM
Dec 18, 2015 4:16 AM
Tim PM
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Hi Rami, I just thought as you've raised about 15 questions this week they must all relate to the same project, but reading them separately it's hard to piece it together, whereas together it could make a great case study. Best regards
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James Smith Nevada, United Kingdom
I believe this is one of those tricky questions that gets you to think about the differences between AON and AOA
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Dec 17, 2015 10:28 AM
Rami Kaibni
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It is, at the same time, the question clearly asks about AON.
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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Dec 17, 2015 8:15 AM
Replying to James Smith
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I believe this is one of those tricky questions that gets you to think about the differences between AON and AOA
It is, at the same time, the question clearly asks about AON.
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Sandilyan Ramadoss Sharjah, Sharjah, United Arab Emirates
it shows the dependencies between nodes - The question as you have said is specifically about arrows and not the PDM. The shape of node doesn't matter. Tricky question. Not very sure.
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Dec 17, 2015 9:33 PM
Rami Kaibni
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It is a very tricky question and PMBOK clearly mentions that arrows represent logical relationships in AON.
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Stéphane Parent Self Employed / Semi-retired| Leader Maker Prince Edward Island, Canada
Yup! Even as a PMI-SP, I have to think twice about it before answering.
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Dec 17, 2015 9:34 PM
Rami Kaibni
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Stephane, I agree with this but Answer "D" is not in line with the theoretical facts.
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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Dec 17, 2015 3:43 PM
Replying to Sandilyan Ramadoss
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it shows the dependencies between nodes - The question as you have said is specifically about arrows and not the PDM. The shape of node doesn't matter. Tricky question. Not very sure.
It is a very tricky question and PMBOK clearly mentions that arrows represent logical relationships in AON.
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Rami Kaibni
Community Champion
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Dec 17, 2015 9:01 PM
Replying to Stéphane Parent
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Yup! Even as a PMI-SP, I have to think twice about it before answering.
Stephane, I agree with this but Answer "D" is not in line with the theoretical facts.
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1 reply by Stéphane Parent
Nov 08, 2016 1:48 PM
Stéphane Parent
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The arrows represent the logical relationships that show "the sequence in which the activities are to be performed" (PMBOK 5, p. 156).

I supposed you can make the case that logical relationships may exist between activities that have nothing to do with their sequencing.

But then I saw Michael's post... ugh...
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Tim PM Project Manager| NHS Yes, United Kingdom
Dec 17, 2015 4:49 AM
Replying to Rami Kaibni
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Tim, this is very irrelevant to the subject but thanks for your opinion and point of view. However, I totally disagree for the following reasons:

1- Questions belong under discussions, which is the main purpose of this section.
2- Questions are not sort of article, experience or knowledge sharing so they definitely do not belong under the blog especially that each member is allowed one main blog here.
3- Different questions address totally different subjects.
4- Addressing different questions with different subjects separately makes it easier for people to respond to and give them flexibility to answer the questions they have answers for and leave others without embarrasement.
5- Bundling different questions all together in one big paper will look boring to the reader or some sort of survey and I am positive I won't be receiving the same positive feedback I am receiving at the moment.

I honestly do not understand why do you think addressing different questions seperately makes it harder for people to respond, maybe you can ellaborate more. You are always welcome to address the subject further via Inbox Message as well because our discussion on this matter here is very irrelevant to the question in hand and at the same time, would appreciate your input on the above mentioned question.
Hi Rami, I just thought as you've raised about 15 questions this week they must all relate to the same project, but reading them separately it's hard to piece it together, whereas together it could make a great case study. Best regards
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Nov 09, 2016 1:52 AM
Rami Kaibni
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Hi Tim,

I just noticed your response. Sorry for the very late reply :-)

You are right, it was difficult to piece them together althought I agree if I was able to piece them together, it would have been a good case study.

Thanks for your input and hope to see more input from you on other discussions.
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Michael Green Senior Project Manager| Tarrant County Information Technology Department Fort Worth, Tx, United States
I thought it should be A and read this thread and was confused but answered d and on mine it says A is correct. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Nov 09, 2016 1:54 AM
Rami Kaibni
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They probably corrected the answer or rephrased the question after posting this question. PMI community engagement specialists take all those discussions seriously and look into them. They do a great job addressing concerns.
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