fosco frongiaSenior project manager| ENTE PATRIMONIALE CHIESA GESU' CRISTO SUGFino Mornasco, Como, Italy
in other discussion was pointed out the relationship between bad ethics and poor risk management. In other therms it was considered that bad ethics could depend from a short time vision (not from an intentional bad behavior) which depends from a poor risk management.
what do you think about it?
do you think that a correct and complete knowledge of ethic code could influence this relationship?
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Steven ZacharyDirector| Alberta Health ServicesCalgary, Alberta, Canada
Dec 30, 2015 5:04 PM
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That sound good Steven,
and work well when people act badly intentionally. But do you think the unethical behavior could be due to poor analysis? and If you think in that manner how we can reduce this risk?
many thanks
Hm... I'm not sure I follow this. Bad analysis? So you mean misinterpretation by the part of the reviewers? Saving Changes...
fosco frongiaSenior project manager| ENTE PATRIMONIALE CHIESA GESU' CRISTO SUGFino Mornasco, Como, Italy
yes and no, we have a poor analysis when we don't analyze all elements that are within our reach or we analyzed them superficially.
in this case we couldn't have bad intention but decisions based on inadequate information could lead to behaviors that ultimately are unethical
what do you think?
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2 replies by Rami Kaibni and Steven Zachary
Jan 01, 2016 7:41 PM
Steven Zachary
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Fosco,
In theory that all sounds great. But how, in practice, do we action this. What practical advice could we use to better the poor analysis?
Jan 02, 2016 8:32 AM
Rami Kaibni
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Fosco, I believe Poor analysis has nothing to do with ethics. It has to do with poor planning and maybe lack of imformation, I personally can't relate poor analysis to ethics unless it was done intentionally.
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Steven ZacharyDirector| Alberta Health ServicesCalgary, Alberta, Canada
Jan 01, 2016 7:28 PM
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yes and no, we have a poor analysis when we don't analyze all elements that are within our reach or we analyzed them superficially.
in this case we couldn't have bad intention but decisions based on inadequate information could lead to behaviors that ultimately are unethical
what do you think?
Fosco,
In theory that all sounds great. But how, in practice, do we action this. What practical advice could we use to better the poor analysis? Saving Changes...
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Jan 01, 2016 7:28 PM
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yes and no, we have a poor analysis when we don't analyze all elements that are within our reach or we analyzed them superficially.
in this case we couldn't have bad intention but decisions based on inadequate information could lead to behaviors that ultimately are unethical
what do you think?
Fosco, I believe Poor analysis has nothing to do with ethics. It has to do with poor planning and maybe lack of imformation, I personally can't relate poor analysis to ethics unless it was done intentionally.
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1 reply by Steven Zachary
Jan 02, 2016 11:06 AM
Steven Zachary
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Good point. I'm not sure if he was referring to more of a personal (internal) analysis or just base level project analysis.
It's a stretch to connect ethics with poor project planning.
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Steven ZacharyDirector| Alberta Health ServicesCalgary, Alberta, Canada
Jan 02, 2016 8:32 AM
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Fosco, I believe Poor analysis has nothing to do with ethics. It has to do with poor planning and maybe lack of imformation, I personally can't relate poor analysis to ethics unless it was done intentionally.
Good point. I'm not sure if he was referring to more of a personal (internal) analysis or just base level project analysis.
It's a stretch to connect ethics with poor project planning. Saving Changes...
Alankar KarpeProject and program management, Speaker and mentor | WiproBangalore, India
Ethics to be real, working and breathing, it must be taken up by leadership as priority. If a board and its directors truly understand their governance roles, they will promote ethics among their ranks and inspire ethical pride organizationally. Risk management can only be strengthen when risks are raised ethically without bias. Saving Changes...
fosco frongiaSenior project manager| ENTE PATRIMONIALE CHIESA GESU' CRISTO SUGFino Mornasco, Como, Italy
Hi Steven and Rami,
I understand our point of view but we have to consider this aspect:
- people could have good intention but, due to poor risk analysis, they don't consider some aspects and take decision to proceed that, in the future, can have ethical and civil/penal consequences. We have some examples in Italy (and other European countries); some company are involved in civil and penal process for asbestos use in production: they are accused because used this material without consider all implication this material have. The matter is: they used this material only in the period it was legal but they go on using it without consider all scientific info was produced during that time.
People died for it and some people which lived in the zone of the production stills suffer healthy consequences.
As you can see, caused by a poor analysis, the y have legal consequences (trials) but ethical too (some people died and other ones are sick)
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Jan 11, 2016 11:17 PM
Rami Kaibni
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This is why always everything in life is Iterative and should be validated and Quality control should be done frequently to ensure that the project or organization are in compliance with all RECENT regulations.
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fosco frongiaSenior project manager| ENTE PATRIMONIALE CHIESA GESU' CRISTO SUGFino Mornasco, Como, Italy
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Jan 11, 2016 7:05 PM
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Hi Steven and Rami,
I understand our point of view but we have to consider this aspect:
- people could have good intention but, due to poor risk analysis, they don't consider some aspects and take decision to proceed that, in the future, can have ethical and civil/penal consequences. We have some examples in Italy (and other European countries); some company are involved in civil and penal process for asbestos use in production: they are accused because used this material without consider all implication this material have. The matter is: they used this material only in the period it was legal but they go on using it without consider all scientific info was produced during that time.
People died for it and some people which lived in the zone of the production stills suffer healthy consequences.
As you can see, caused by a poor analysis, the y have legal consequences (trials) but ethical too (some people died and other ones are sick)
This is why always everything in life is Iterative and should be validated and Quality control should be done frequently to ensure that the project or organization are in compliance with all RECENT regulations. Saving Changes...
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