fosco frongiaSenior project manager| ENTE PATRIMONIALE CHIESA GESU' CRISTO SUGFino Mornasco, Como, Italy
since several weeks we are discussing about Ethics
It was commented that Ethics is influenced by culture and education.
Do you agree with this comment?
if you don't agree, may you explain why?
And in the case you agree, considering an international context, how we can "create" a common and accepted ethic code?
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Well I agree and disagree - Let me put it to you in a simple way, the way I believe it is:
Culture influences Ethics and Education Reinforces it !
There is a relation between the three of them: Influence Relation between Ethics and Culture and Reinforcement Relation between Ethics and Education. Both are important factors.
Internationally and in multi-cultural projects, the only way you can create common and accepted Ethics Code is Cultural Awareness. There are certain things you can make in common but certain factors will remain unique to the specific culture you are dealing with.
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1 reply by fosco frongia
Jan 01, 2016 6:27 PM
fosco frongia
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thanks Rami,
interesting your comment about the different relationship Ethics - Culture and Ethics - Education
Do you think Education is a complement of Culture in the Ethics surround?
Concerning the second part of your comment: you focus the theme in the cultural awareness, I agree, it is a fundamental element to create a common ethical code; but, if a part is predominant in a relationship (e.g. head quarters of a multi national enterprise), do you think this one could impose his ethical code and, in this case, how much will this one be accepted and respected?
Steven ZacharyDirector| Alberta Health ServicesCalgary, Alberta, Canada
A common ethical code?
Have you read Plato? He addresses the same thing. In fact, every 50 years a new visionary tackles the topic. From Libertarianism to Neoclassical there is so much written on this by the absolute BEST philosophy has to offer.
I recommend you search for Michael Sanel. He is at the forefront of modern and past ethical discussion and his free course "Justice" on edx (search in google) is a amazing resource.
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1 reply by fosco frongia
Jan 01, 2016 6:58 PM
fosco frongia
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thanks Steven,
If I have understood well your comment (Plato help me to it) you are talking about and Ethic code which is "offered" to the world which "have to " accept;, this is an important philosophical concept.
in the other side can we consider that there are common ethical elements which collected could form a Code? (probably this position is nearer to Aristotelian concept)
I found the justice free course by Michael Sandel in you tube called "Justice: what's the right thing to do?" is these one recommended by you?
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Steven ZacharyDirector| Alberta Health ServicesCalgary, Alberta, Canada
Dec 30, 2015 10:36 PM
Replying to Rami Kaibni
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@Fosco: I got something for you in my Blog Posts, check it out: My "Before Theory"
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Dec 31, 2015 3:50 PM
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HA! Awesome tie in.
Isn't that right Steven :D Saving Changes...
fosco frongiaSenior project manager| ENTE PATRIMONIALE CHIESA GESU' CRISTO SUGFino Mornasco, Como, Italy
Dec 30, 2015 9:24 PM
Replying to Rami Kaibni
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Well I agree and disagree - Let me put it to you in a simple way, the way I believe it is:
Culture influences Ethics and Education Reinforces it !
There is a relation between the three of them: Influence Relation between Ethics and Culture and Reinforcement Relation between Ethics and Education. Both are important factors.
Internationally and in multi-cultural projects, the only way you can create common and accepted Ethics Code is Cultural Awareness. There are certain things you can make in common but certain factors will remain unique to the specific culture you are dealing with.
thanks Rami,
interesting your comment about the different relationship Ethics - Culture and Ethics - Education
Do you think Education is a complement of Culture in the Ethics surround?
Concerning the second part of your comment: you focus the theme in the cultural awareness, I agree, it is a fundamental element to create a common ethical code; but, if a part is predominant in a relationship (e.g. head quarters of a multi national enterprise), do you think this one could impose his ethical code and, in this case, how much will this one be accepted and respected?
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Jan 02, 2016 8:38 AM
Rami Kaibni
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Fosco,
I think they all compliment each other, like usually you say: Educate your people about culture.
On the second part, from my experience, they can impose their ethical code to a cetain limit and on certain things that are inter-company but when it comes to things that has to do with the culture of the country they are operating in, they have to follow that culture to avoid conflict and increased risk.
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fosco frongiaSenior project manager| ENTE PATRIMONIALE CHIESA GESU' CRISTO SUGFino Mornasco, Como, Italy
Dec 30, 2015 10:36 PM
Replying to Rami Kaibni
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@Fosco: I got something for you in my Blog Posts, check it out: My "Before Theory"
fosco frongiaSenior project manager| ENTE PATRIMONIALE CHIESA GESU' CRISTO SUGFino Mornasco, Como, Italy
Dec 31, 2015 3:49 PM
Replying to Steven Zachary
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A common ethical code?
Have you read Plato? He addresses the same thing. In fact, every 50 years a new visionary tackles the topic. From Libertarianism to Neoclassical there is so much written on this by the absolute BEST philosophy has to offer.
I recommend you search for Michael Sanel. He is at the forefront of modern and past ethical discussion and his free course "Justice" on edx (search in google) is a amazing resource.
thanks Steven,
If I have understood well your comment (Plato help me to it) you are talking about and Ethic code which is "offered" to the world which "have to " accept;, this is an important philosophical concept.
in the other side can we consider that there are common ethical elements which collected could form a Code? (probably this position is nearer to Aristotelian concept)
I found the justice free course by Michael Sandel in you tube called "Justice: what's the right thing to do?" is these one recommended by you?
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1 reply by Steven Zachary
Jan 01, 2016 7:05 PM
Steven Zachary
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Yes that's the course, highly recommend as it walks through Plato, Aristotle, locke, trolly problem, Bentham and more. One of my all time favs and one of Harvard's gem courses.
I don't think there can be an ethical code, it's a human construct to try to create something that deals with all ethical constructs. To do so effectively you'd have to operate at such a high level, the assumption the average human could or would apply it to daily reason goes against System 1 and 2 thinking research by Daniel Kahnmen.
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Steven ZacharyDirector| Alberta Health ServicesCalgary, Alberta, Canada
Jan 01, 2016 6:58 PM
Replying to fosco frongia
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thanks Steven,
If I have understood well your comment (Plato help me to it) you are talking about and Ethic code which is "offered" to the world which "have to " accept;, this is an important philosophical concept.
in the other side can we consider that there are common ethical elements which collected could form a Code? (probably this position is nearer to Aristotelian concept)
I found the justice free course by Michael Sandel in you tube called "Justice: what's the right thing to do?" is these one recommended by you?
Yes that's the course, highly recommend as it walks through Plato, Aristotle, locke, trolly problem, Bentham and more. One of my all time favs and one of Harvard's gem courses.
I don't think there can be an ethical code, it's a human construct to try to create something that deals with all ethical constructs. To do so effectively you'd have to operate at such a high level, the assumption the average human could or would apply it to daily reason goes against System 1 and 2 thinking research by Daniel Kahnmen. Saving Changes...
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