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fosco frongia Senior project manager| ENTE PATRIMONIALE CHIESA GESU' CRISTO SUG Fino Mornasco, Como, Italy
Corruption is a scourge that unfortunately affects many human activities.
Do you think it could in any way interfere in the practice of project management?
If your answer is not please indicate why.
In the case you think that it could affect projects, please indicate which elements are, in your opinion, the most triggers.
many thanks in advance
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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Jan 15, 2016 8:47 AM
Replying to James Porter
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Regarding the question of what triggers these behaviors, the ones that come to mind are
- self-dealing: putting own interests ahead of the company. At another company I once saw a PM undermine a project by agreeing to every demand by a contractor without objection and at great cost to the project. The PM was terminated eventually, and I bet you can guess where he got a new job.

- company culture: some companies tolerate corruption as long as it helps them. For example, a PM may offer cash to a customer's inspector to overlook certain problems. Or it may be more subtle than a cash payoff.

- a belief that "everybody does it": a PM may accept "little gifts" as a project is executed, thinking that it's no big deal. Football tickets, use of a beachfront condo for a week's vacation, or other non-cash things. No money changes hands so the PM might think it's just how things get done.
Great and Very True feedback James !
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fosco frongia Senior project manager| ENTE PATRIMONIALE CHIESA GESU' CRISTO SUG Fino Mornasco, Como, Italy
Jan 14, 2016 8:06 PM
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Not really, whether it was a small project or a big project the policies are the same. What differs is the tendency for corruption and degree of reinforcement for these policies as in large projects, there are lots of room for corruption if things were not monitored properly while on small projects, it is limited, yet it can happen but usually detected shortly.
yes, I think your position it is the correct one. there are not different policies but perhaps attitudes. In fact I think people are more motivated to commit illicit acts in major projects for greater amount of budget and easier to hide the illicit
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Jan 16, 2016 3:09 PM
Rami Kaibni
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This is exactly right.
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fosco frongia Senior project manager| ENTE PATRIMONIALE CHIESA GESU' CRISTO SUG Fino Mornasco, Como, Italy
Jan 14, 2016 8:08 PM
Replying to Rami Kaibni
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I do have one but can't disclose it due too confidentiality.

IMHO, It will be fundamental if reinforced and monitored properly just like any other rules and regulations. At the end of the day, it is a ink on paper but reinforcing it and monitoring is what make it an efficient document.
correct
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fosco frongia Senior project manager| ENTE PATRIMONIALE CHIESA GESU' CRISTO SUG Fino Mornasco, Como, Italy
Jan 15, 2016 2:25 AM
Replying to Khawaja Saif ur Rehman
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Exactly. Moral corruption is because of lack of ethics.
People coming from different backgrounds come with different values and ethics. The "Code of Conduct" developed by companies is meant to dealt with this. Whenever I am to deal with company matters, I have a code to follow.
thanks, totally agreed
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fosco frongia Senior project manager| ENTE PATRIMONIALE CHIESA GESU' CRISTO SUG Fino Mornasco, Como, Italy
Jan 15, 2016 6:30 AM
Replying to Rahman Tiamiyu
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I totally agree with you fosco, it is like leading a procurement negotiation and across the table is your "in-law" and you play along as if you haven't seen him/her before.
thanks, this is tha normal approach for conflict of interest
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fosco frongia Senior project manager| ENTE PATRIMONIALE CHIESA GESU' CRISTO SUG Fino Mornasco, Como, Italy
Jan 15, 2016 8:47 AM
Replying to James Porter
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Regarding the question of what triggers these behaviors, the ones that come to mind are
- self-dealing: putting own interests ahead of the company. At another company I once saw a PM undermine a project by agreeing to every demand by a contractor without objection and at great cost to the project. The PM was terminated eventually, and I bet you can guess where he got a new job.

- company culture: some companies tolerate corruption as long as it helps them. For example, a PM may offer cash to a customer's inspector to overlook certain problems. Or it may be more subtle than a cash payoff.

- a belief that "everybody does it": a PM may accept "little gifts" as a project is executed, thinking that it's no big deal. Football tickets, use of a beachfront condo for a week's vacation, or other non-cash things. No money changes hands so the PM might think it's just how things get done.
thanks James, I totally agree with your comments:
- Self dealing: that PM was "lucky", in other cases I know these kind of people was not fired by the company due to they had the suspect that the PM attitude would be applied in the new job environment too
- company culture: it is true, in some cases is not only tolerate but encouraged too; in this case is encouraged the attitude to corrupt other people. I think this is not depending by the company (considered like an organization based on objectives and values) but it depends by the management,
- little gifts: it is needed a policy in this case too, it is necessary to define what the company considers little gift, some company establish it in a very clear manner
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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Jan 16, 2016 9:02 AM
Replying to fosco frongia
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yes, I think your position it is the correct one. there are not different policies but perhaps attitudes. In fact I think people are more motivated to commit illicit acts in major projects for greater amount of budget and easier to hide the illicit
This is exactly right.
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Suhail Iqbal Suhail Iqbal PMIATP CIPM FAAPM MPM MQM CLC CPRM SCT AEC SDC SMC SPOC PRINCE2 MCT| PM Training School Rawalpindi, Punjab, Pakistan
Jan 13, 2016 1:11 PM
Replying to Khawaja Saif ur Rehman
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Absolutely apt responses from everyone.
One thing I'd like to add. The corruptions in contracts and procurement are quantifiable and thus tangible. The moral corruptions are; at times; difficult to detect.
One behaviour I consider as most inappropriate is of those project managers who do not act as entrepreneur on behalf of the company and are "just doing their job". These project managers not necessarily have bad or personal intentions yet their attitude towards handling the project makes it prone to many many disasters.
I fully agree that beside tangible corruption there are many intangibles, and all these can be bridged through proper implementation of Ethics and Social responsibility Policies.
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Jan 18, 2016 4:15 AM
fosco frongia
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Thanks Suhail,
completely agree with your comments.
do you think that Ethics and Social responsibility Policies should be only imposed by head quarters or it is needed to implement strategies by the company for create a common Ethics and Social culture?
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fosco frongia Senior project manager| ENTE PATRIMONIALE CHIESA GESU' CRISTO SUG Fino Mornasco, Como, Italy
Jan 17, 2016 8:19 PM
Replying to Suhail Iqbal
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I fully agree that beside tangible corruption there are many intangibles, and all these can be bridged through proper implementation of Ethics and Social responsibility Policies.
Thanks Suhail,
completely agree with your comments.
do you think that Ethics and Social responsibility Policies should be only imposed by head quarters or it is needed to implement strategies by the company for create a common Ethics and Social culture?
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Suhail Iqbal Suhail Iqbal PMIATP CIPM FAAPM MPM MQM CLC CPRM SCT AEC SDC SMC SPOC PRINCE2 MCT| PM Training School Rawalpindi, Punjab, Pakistan
At company level, there must be a common policy for that but if the company is too diversified and spread around the globe, there might be policies applicable to geographic locations, like no alcoholic beverages in muslim countries.
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1 reply by fosco frongia
Jan 20, 2016 6:42 PM
fosco frongia
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thanks Suhail,
I have the same perspective.
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