Brad CodkindProject Manager| BoseMedway, Ma, United States
A huge part of my job is interfacing with CMs and JDMs. Often they have they have their own PM. This is a double edged sword. I would love to hear things that have/haven't worked for you in the past. Saving Changes...
I can share with you some experience from a manufacturing PMs perspective. You as the client should realize work flow is very critical for the manufacturer. They are trying all the time to balance their work load among multiple orders. This means changes which affect the schedule are difficult to accommodate. You should also realize that the manufacturing PM that you have to deal with doesn’t have as much control over the project resources. This again is due to the work environment requirements of the manufacturing projects. So my suggestion for you when working with manufacturing PMs is to make sure an acceptable project plan is in place, minimize the need to changes as much as possible, and most importantly make sure their requests for information are being addressed in a timely manner. Saving Changes...
Brad CodkindProject Manager| BoseMedway, Ma, United States
Those are all very fair requests. Thank you for the perspective. Do you suggest using a slightly more padded schedule/budget than I would for an internal project?
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1 reply by Ayat Rezaeifar
Jan 13, 2016 4:27 PM
Ayat Rezaeifar
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No, I would never suggest anyone to pad the budget or schedule. Instead I would suggest arranging a risk identification session with the manufacturers (and other stakeholders such as consultants) and make sure you have a good facilitator for that session. Use the results of that session to adjust the schedule/budget if needed.
Another suggestion, if you can, take advantage of on-board review of the drawings. Putting the engineers from both sides in a room and letting them communicate directly, saves you tons of time and money!
Those are all very fair requests. Thank you for the perspective. Do you suggest using a slightly more padded schedule/budget than I would for an internal project?
No, I would never suggest anyone to pad the budget or schedule. Instead I would suggest arranging a risk identification session with the manufacturers (and other stakeholders such as consultants) and make sure you have a good facilitator for that session. Use the results of that session to adjust the schedule/budget if needed.
Another suggestion, if you can, take advantage of on-board review of the drawings. Putting the engineers from both sides in a room and letting them communicate directly, saves you tons of time and money!
Hope these help.
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1 reply by Suhail Iqbal
Jan 14, 2016 4:23 AM
Suhail Iqbal
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I strongly agree with Ayat that the notion of accommodating padding as kosher is not acceptable. Remember, Padding is a SIN in project management and there is no possible reason which could ever justify that. Best approach is proper risk identification and analysis yielding into well-calculated reserves and contingencies.
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Brad CodkindProject Manager| BoseMedway, Ma, United States
Very much so. I like the idea of a risk-focused meeting early on. We should be able to recover from bumps and bruises quicker if we knew there was a chance of them happening and we have some sort of mitigation plan in place. Saving Changes...
No, I would never suggest anyone to pad the budget or schedule. Instead I would suggest arranging a risk identification session with the manufacturers (and other stakeholders such as consultants) and make sure you have a good facilitator for that session. Use the results of that session to adjust the schedule/budget if needed.
Another suggestion, if you can, take advantage of on-board review of the drawings. Putting the engineers from both sides in a room and letting them communicate directly, saves you tons of time and money!
Hope these help.
I strongly agree with Ayat that the notion of accommodating padding as kosher is not acceptable. Remember, Padding is a SIN in project management and there is no possible reason which could ever justify that. Best approach is proper risk identification and analysis yielding into well-calculated reserves and contingencies.
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Jan 14, 2016 7:59 PM
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I totally agree, Padding is not a solution or even close to being the right solution.
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Priya PatraDelivery Director| Capgemini India Technology Services LtdMumbai, India
Padding not a right way to manage risk, however we can have a contigency / risk planning in place to mitigate the risk. Even if the risk materializes, at least we are prepared for it, there are no suprises Saving Changes...
PANKAJ KUMAR JOSHIGeneral Manager| Transrail Lighting LimitedNainital, Uttrakhand, India
It is always difficult in such situations Saving Changes...
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Jan 14, 2016 4:23 AM
Replying to Suhail Iqbal
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I strongly agree with Ayat that the notion of accommodating padding as kosher is not acceptable. Remember, Padding is a SIN in project management and there is no possible reason which could ever justify that. Best approach is proper risk identification and analysis yielding into well-calculated reserves and contingencies.
I totally agree, Padding is not a solution or even close to being the right solution. Saving Changes...
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