fosco frongiaSenior project manager| ENTE PATRIMONIALE CHIESA GESU' CRISTO SUGFino Mornasco, Como, Italy
I'm looking for a second PMI certification and PMI - PBA is one of those of my interest. anyway, before to take a final decision, I'd like to receive some feedback from people already involved in. Principal question are?
- I'm working on construction market, do you think would be useful in?
- is it necessary a strong IT preparation?
are there exam simulation like for PMP certification.
many thanks in advance for your help Saving Changes...
Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
Perhaps this could help you Pankaj. In 2010 the PMI publish an article inside the PMnetwork magazine, in the central pages, about business analysis, where they say that business analyst role will be an upward step in the project manager career. I do not agree with that. While a lot of people (like me) have performed both roles mainly in the begining of business analysis "profession", both roles have diferent focus and both roles have diferent skills. Saving Changes...
Markus KopkoAI Enabler for Project & Program Mgmt | Founder PMotion.ai / The PM
AI Coach| PMotion.aiHamburg, Hamburg, Germany
Hello Fosco,
i am actually also consider doing the PBA certification and do currently scan the internet for suitable resources. If you want we can share our findings; there are some webistes providing prep material similar to the PMP certifrication and at least collections of sample questions. I havn't find an exam simulator yet, but i know that Cornelius Fichtner (PMPrepcast; PMP Exam simulator) is working on it, but that will need until end of this year maybe.
I do not know about construction projects, but if you perform reqirement engineering, assesment and analyzes - and i guess so - than it will be benefitial for sure.
You wrote:
" - - is it necessary a strong IT preparation? "
I am out of IT but didn't get the point here, could be a bit more specific here please?
Thx,
Markus Saving Changes...
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Jan 14, 2016 8:54 PM
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Perhaps this could help you Pankaj. In 2010 the PMI publish an article inside the PMnetwork magazine, in the central pages, about business analysis, where they say that business analyst role will be an upward step in the project manager career. I do not agree with that. While a lot of people (like me) have performed both roles mainly in the begining of business analysis "profession", both roles have diferent focus and both roles have diferent skills.
Hello Sergio,
that is very interesting; i have just started to dive in the PBA field of knowledge and reading the PMI's practice guide, where in chapter "1.6.1 Skillset and Expertise Needed for the Business Analysis Role" a lot of skills are listed which would be needed by a project manager also i would say.
So it seems that there is a big overlap between both roles.
Am i wrong?
have found the following:
"- is it necessary a strong IT preparation? Saving Changes...
Markus KopkoAI Enabler for Project & Program Mgmt | Founder PMotion.ai / The PM
AI Coach| PMotion.aiHamburg, Hamburg, Germany
Hello Sergio,
that is very interesting; i have just started to dive in the PBA field of knowledge and reading the PMI's practice guide, where in chapter "1.6.1 Skillset and Expertise Needed for the Business Analysis Role" a lot of skills are listed which would be needed by a project manager also i would say.
So it seems that there is a big overlap between both roles.
Am i wrong?
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Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
I can write about your question Markus but I think the best is you download the PMI´s "Practice Guide for Business Analysis" and read the section "Collaboration Points" inside it. Before the guide exists I work a lot trying to clarify about that. There is not overlaping. You have two types of scope: product scope and project scope. Project scope must be defined from product scope. Business analyst focus is product scope while project manager focus is project scope. On the other side, business analyst work starts before a project exists (she/he is in charge of creating the business case) and continue after the project end (she/he is in charge to monitoring if stated benefits are achieved). Both roles have to work together but is not overlaping. Saving Changes...
Markus KopkoAI Enabler for Project & Program Mgmt | Founder PMotion.ai / The PM
AI Coach| PMotion.aiHamburg, Hamburg, Germany
Hello Sergio,
thank you for your promt response. Like i said before i have just started reading the practice guide.
And yes, i understand about the different focus of each role, but there are defintivly an overlap in the skill sets needed for each role and that what was i meant, sorry for being unclear on that.
And thank your for the hint with the collaboration points, i had a closer look on them now.
Regards,
Markus Saving Changes...
Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
Markus: what I said is there is not an overlap in the skill sets. But it does not matter to certificate. To really see the skill set you have to read the IIBA BABOK section named "Underlying Competences" and compare it with the PMI´s PMCD standard. For example, systemic thinking is a must in business analysis role but it is not a core competence in the project manager role (in accordance with PCMD standard). Some people (I do not say that you) do not take into account that PMCD core competences are all focused on project management. So, if you find the same inside the BA´s underlying competences the field of application is totally diferent. On the practical side most of us performed the business analyst role while performing the project manager role when the first one was not formally defined due to it started in 1998. Saving Changes...
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