Rajarajan DhayanithiProject Engineer| Tecton Engineering and ConstructionAbu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates
I think, overplanning may be if you breakup your activities into very micro level (more than necessary). It's may be very difficult to track the day-day activities. Saving Changes...
James PorterSr. Project Planner| Hitachi Rail STS USAGlenshaw, Pa, United States
My reply is in the context of project schedules. Nobody thinks they have overplanned until they are suffering from having to maintain the plan! :)
It's not always easy to know where the line is between an appropriately detailed plan and a too-detailed plan. Work package owners tend to over-plan by including every single activity that will occur. You don't want a little bump in the road to cause a lot of change to the project schedule.
You can focus on handoff points and milestones in the schedule so those have high visibility - but if a work package involves developing 5 documents, is it really necessary to include a dozen activities for each one? It might be enough to have a "develop document" activity and an approval milestone. That way you still have good visibility into when it will be finished, but you don't have to keep reworking your schedule if multiple revisions are needed.
I think it's fine for work package owners to maintain a more detailed activity list than what's in the project schedule as long they can relate their progress to the project schedule.
If schedule progress updates are regularly causing activities to be added/removed from the schedule, as well as logic changes - and there has been no change in project scope - then that could be an indicator of overplanning in the schedule.
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1 reply by Paolo Cornali
Jan 21, 2016 12:50 AM
Paolo Cornali
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Thanks to all your feedbacks.
Finally resuming the various posts, I think that it's needed to breakdown activities to a manageable level and to a level where you can create bottom-up cost estimate and use it as a warning line between good planning and over planning.
Obviously the planning costs have to be balanced to project budget.
Moreover I agree with James when he said that it's fine for work package owners to maintain a more detailed activity list than what's in the project schedule as long they can relate their progress to the project schedule.
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
IMHO, You usually plan amd breakdown activities to a manageable level and to a level where you can create bottom-up cost estimate. Beyond this level, it would be unnecessary overplanning unless you found it necessary for a certain activity or WP. Saving Changes...
PANKAJ KUMAR JOSHIGeneral Manager| Transrail Lighting LimitedNainital, Uttrakhand, India
There is over planning when it is not properly monitored and controlled. Otherwise it is always better to plan & control as much as possible.
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Jan 20, 2016 1:02 AM
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I don't agree at all Pankaj. I agree that plan & control is necessary, but plan & control too much can lead to concentrate too much on control and "paralyze" execution activites.
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Paolo CornaliProject Manager| HTA srlBrescia, Lombardia, Italy
Jan 19, 2016 1:14 PM
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There is over planning when it is not properly monitored and controlled. Otherwise it is always better to plan & control as much as possible.
I don't agree at all Pankaj. I agree that plan & control is necessary, but plan & control too much can lead to concentrate too much on control and "paralyze" execution activites.
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1 reply by PANKAJ KUMAR JOSHI
Jan 20, 2016 2:29 AM
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Hi Paolo
Monitoring and control doesn't mean to slow down the execution. Planning is done to monitor the project with all available constraints. It is meant for proper and timely execution. If you are not doing it in that way then it is not planning. Control is no way to paralyse the execution, it is for on time execution. If you don't plan & monitor, your schedule and cost will never be under control in your project. Hope you understand.
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PANKAJ KUMAR JOSHIGeneral Manager| Transrail Lighting LimitedNainital, Uttrakhand, India
Jan 20, 2016 1:02 AM
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I don't agree at all Pankaj. I agree that plan & control is necessary, but plan & control too much can lead to concentrate too much on control and "paralyze" execution activites.
Hi Paolo
Monitoring and control doesn't mean to slow down the execution. Planning is done to monitor the project with all available constraints. It is meant for proper and timely execution. If you are not doing it in that way then it is not planning. Control is no way to paralyse the execution, it is for on time execution. If you don't plan & monitor, your schedule and cost will never be under control in your project. Hope you understand.
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Jan 20, 2016 7:39 AM
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Hi Pankaj,
obviosuly I don't say to don't plan or monitor, I deeply believe that planning and monitoring is indispensable to have project under control, I only said that if you fall in the pitfall of overplanning the execution could be paralyzed.
I don't agree only with the part of your statement where you say: "it is always better to plan & control as much as possible".
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Paolo CornaliProject Manager| HTA srlBrescia, Lombardia, Italy
Jan 20, 2016 2:29 AM
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Hi Paolo
Monitoring and control doesn't mean to slow down the execution. Planning is done to monitor the project with all available constraints. It is meant for proper and timely execution. If you are not doing it in that way then it is not planning. Control is no way to paralyse the execution, it is for on time execution. If you don't plan & monitor, your schedule and cost will never be under control in your project. Hope you understand.
Hi Pankaj,
obviosuly I don't say to don't plan or monitor, I deeply believe that planning and monitoring is indispensable to have project under control, I only said that if you fall in the pitfall of overplanning the execution could be paralyzed.
I don't agree only with the part of your statement where you say: "it is always better to plan & control as much as possible".
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1 reply by PANKAJ KUMAR JOSHI
Jan 20, 2016 11:06 AM
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I believe that you mean with over planning if organisation is wasting time in making Plans and losing precious time of execution, monitoring and control. It can be considered as wrong planning.
Planning means you understand the objective, requirements, constraints(time, budget, quality, resources) of your project and you only subdivide work into manageable packages.
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PANKAJ KUMAR JOSHIGeneral Manager| Transrail Lighting LimitedNainital, Uttrakhand, India
Jan 20, 2016 7:39 AM
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Hi Pankaj,
obviosuly I don't say to don't plan or monitor, I deeply believe that planning and monitoring is indispensable to have project under control, I only said that if you fall in the pitfall of overplanning the execution could be paralyzed.
I don't agree only with the part of your statement where you say: "it is always better to plan & control as much as possible".
I believe that you mean with over planning if organisation is wasting time in making Plans and losing precious time of execution, monitoring and control. It can be considered as wrong planning.
Planning means you understand the objective, requirements, constraints(time, budget, quality, resources) of your project and you only subdivide work into manageable packages. Saving Changes...
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
You plan, monitor and control based on the project requirements - it differs from a project to another. If it is high priority project or high risk project, etc ,etc. Saving Changes...
It is called Paralysis through Analysis. If you are over-planning then you are over-spending resources. You will naturally not plan a 1 million dollar project which has a planning cost of 2 million. You will restrain and restrict the planning to a limit justified by the expected budget of the project. Trust e you would know when you are over-planning, you will feel paralyzed and there will be excessive and expensive analysis not justified by the project itself. Saving Changes...
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