ETHICAL BEHAVIOR AND TIME PERSPECTIVE: IS THIS RELATIONSHIP REAL?
fosco frongiaSenior project manager| ENTE PATRIMONIALE CHIESA GESU' CRISTO SUGFino Mornasco, Como, Italy
The perception of profitability depends on the perspective of time people/companies consider.
In other words unethical behavior are connected with a short-term vision which is characterized by a lack of consequences analysis.
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Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
No, I do not agree. Values are the basement of each organization. Values could be explicit defined or not. But Values comes from people and people makes the organization. So, it is not a matter of time or the point in the organizational life cycle you are. Is a matter of people who are part of the organization.
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1 reply by fosco frongia
Jan 22, 2016 4:31 PM
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Thanks Sergio for your comment, I agree with you that the values are the the basement of each organization and people make the organization. Unfortunately considering what occurs in the in the world is more correct to affirm: " Values SHOULD be the basement of each organization..." My question sorted reading an article by Alankar Karpe - http://www.projectmanagement.com/articles/...l-is-Profitable - I was thinking about the relationship between the perception of profitability and the perspective of time as described in that article and i realized that: 1 - we need a solid ethical basis for managing our project particularly when we have big challenges 2 - if people have not this solid basis probably they make a decision considering only the short term profitability and not the consequences of the behavior in the middle-long time 3- the concept or perception of profitability could be based on different elements in the case of people without good ethical basis but MUST be based in the same ones for people with solid values I kindly appreciate your comment about these considerations Thanks Fosco
No! Not at all. Time should not and cannot have any effect on ethical behavior in a project. Ethics are anyways to be followed. You can't bribe or kill just to get your project done in time. It would be criminal.
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Jan 22, 2016 4:44 PM
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Thanks Suhail for you comment. I agree with you as explained in my answer to Sergio your affirmation is valid for people with strong ethical values. For other people probably is not totally valid: perhaps for bad intention - in some cases occurs - perhaps in other cases for the mere ignorance about ethical values consequences.
My concerns are focused for these last group. In my experience I knew people - good people - which had a bad behavior only because they didn't consider all consequences of their decisions.
I strongly think that we can work with these kind of people promoting a correct knowledge about ethical behavior and results.
I kindly appreciate you comment about my considerations
thanks
Fosco
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fosco frongiaSenior project manager| ENTE PATRIMONIALE CHIESA GESU' CRISTO SUGFino Mornasco, Como, Italy
Jan 22, 2016 6:56 AM
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No, I do not agree. Values are the basement of each organization. Values could be explicit defined or not. But Values comes from people and people makes the organization. So, it is not a matter of time or the point in the organizational life cycle you are. Is a matter of people who are part of the organization.
Thanks Sergio for your comment, I agree with you that the values are the the basement of each organization and people make the organization. Unfortunately considering what occurs in the in the world is more correct to affirm: " Values SHOULD be the basement of each organization..." My question sorted reading an article by Alankar Karpe - http://www.projectmanagement.com/articles/...l-is-Profitable - I was thinking about the relationship between the perception of profitability and the perspective of time as described in that article and i realized that: 1 - we need a solid ethical basis for managing our project particularly when we have big challenges 2 - if people have not this solid basis probably they make a decision considering only the short term profitability and not the consequences of the behavior in the middle-long time 3- the concept or perception of profitability could be based on different elements in the case of people without good ethical basis but MUST be based in the same ones for people with solid values I kindly appreciate your comment about these considerations Thanks Fosco Saving Changes...
fosco frongiaSenior project manager| ENTE PATRIMONIALE CHIESA GESU' CRISTO SUGFino Mornasco, Como, Italy
Jan 22, 2016 4:02 PM
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No! Not at all. Time should not and cannot have any effect on ethical behavior in a project. Ethics are anyways to be followed. You can't bribe or kill just to get your project done in time. It would be criminal.
Thanks Suhail for you comment. I agree with you as explained in my answer to Sergio your affirmation is valid for people with strong ethical values. For other people probably is not totally valid: perhaps for bad intention - in some cases occurs - perhaps in other cases for the mere ignorance about ethical values consequences.
My concerns are focused for these last group. In my experience I knew people - good people - which had a bad behavior only because they didn't consider all consequences of their decisions.
I strongly think that we can work with these kind of people promoting a correct knowledge about ethical behavior and results.
I kindly appreciate you comment about my considerations
thanks
Fosco Saving Changes...
Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
It is not about what it is. It is about what it must be. It is on your own. You and each of us make things happends. We need to stop to talk about things that we wishes to happend. We must make things happend. Saving Changes...
fosco frongiaSenior project manager| ENTE PATRIMONIALE CHIESA GESU' CRISTO SUGFino Mornasco, Como, Italy
I agree with you Sergio, we have to act because things happen but, for acting effectively because the things happens, we have to define the problem, looking for root causes and planing action having the correct perception of the problem.
I agree we have to act now (and not await the "perfect" definition of the project) but the process above mentioned help us to improve in our actions.
do you agree on it?
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Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
Perhaps I did not understand but still I do not agree. Ethical behaivor is a matter of personal values. And people make the organizations. So, an organization is so ethical as the people who make it.
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1 reply by fosco frongia
Jan 27, 2016 5:40 PM
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thanks Sergio for your replay. I understand your point of view and agree that an organization is so ethical as the people who make it. Anyway the ethical behavior is conducted by an enterprise code which define some limits or guidelines. This code will be respected if it is on line with personal code and if it is understood by people.
Well put Sergio, "An Organization is only so Ethical as the People, who make it."
Any Organization can successfully conduct a project, but the question is can they be relied for their ethical values? PMI Code of Ethics binds all project managers worldwide with a generic set of ethical values, which should at least be followed by all. So it is a good starting point to set or improve your organizational Ethical Values.
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Jan 27, 2016 5:43 PM
fosco frongia
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thanks Suahil, completely agreed
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fosco frongiaSenior project manager| ENTE PATRIMONIALE CHIESA GESU' CRISTO SUGFino Mornasco, Como, Italy
Jan 22, 2016 7:30 PM
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Perhaps I did not understand but still I do not agree. Ethical behaivor is a matter of personal values. And people make the organizations. So, an organization is so ethical as the people who make it.
thanks Sergio for your replay. I understand your point of view and agree that an organization is so ethical as the people who make it. Anyway the ethical behavior is conducted by an enterprise code which define some limits or guidelines. This code will be respected if it is on line with personal code and if it is understood by people. Saving Changes...
fosco frongiaSenior project manager| ENTE PATRIMONIALE CHIESA GESU' CRISTO SUGFino Mornasco, Como, Italy
Jan 23, 2016 2:47 AM
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Well put Sergio, "An Organization is only so Ethical as the People, who make it."
Any Organization can successfully conduct a project, but the question is can they be relied for their ethical values? PMI Code of Ethics binds all project managers worldwide with a generic set of ethical values, which should at least be followed by all. So it is a good starting point to set or improve your organizational Ethical Values.
