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Ivan Samuel Santana Project Management Trainer & Consultant| ITPROIECTUS Las Palmas, Spain, Spain
I am interested in understanding how PMP exam evaluates students. I have trained a lot of students along years, however, I would like to understand the reason because a person failed the exam being moderately proficient in four group processes and another person passes only with three moderately proficient in three group processes.

Thanks forward!
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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
This is not good news as I will sit for the exam soon but as far as I know, there are weights for process areas where execution carries most weight then planning and monitory and controlling, then initiating and closing. Maybe the first student failed the execution process which has most weight (I am just assuming).

I am sure other fellow members can shed a light on this.
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Ivan Samuel Santana Project Management Trainer & Consultant| ITPROIECTUS Las Palmas, Spain, Spain
Thanks Rami, I would be grateful if others members can shed a light on this.

This was the situation we are looking at:

Initiating | Planning | Executing | Monitoring | Closing
Moderately Prof. | Moder Prof. | Below Prof. | Below Prof. | Moderately Prof. --> PASS
Moderately Prof. | Below Prof. | Mod. Prof. | Mod. Prof. | Moderately Prof. --> FAIL
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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
This is really strange and I really hope other members can advise on this.
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Ivan Samuel Santana Project Management Trainer & Consultant| ITPROIECTUS Las Palmas, Spain, Spain
Thanks Rami, this is the case we are considering:

Student A

Moderately Proficient, Moderately Proficient, Below Proficient, Below Proficient, Moderately Proficient --> PASS

Student B

Moderately Proficient, Below Proficient , Moderately Proficient, Moderately Proficient ,Moderately Proficient --> FAIL

More opinions will be welcome.
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Jan 23, 2016 1:51 PM
Rami Kaibni
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No problem Ivan but can you ellaborate if Below Prof. means below 60% and if moderate prof. is between 65% & 75% ? Can you give the exact percentages these students got ?
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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Jan 23, 2016 1:48 PM
Replying to Ivan Samuel Santana
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Thanks Rami, this is the case we are considering:

Student A

Moderately Proficient, Moderately Proficient, Below Proficient, Below Proficient, Moderately Proficient --> PASS

Student B

Moderately Proficient, Below Proficient , Moderately Proficient, Moderately Proficient ,Moderately Proficient --> FAIL

More opinions will be welcome.
No problem Ivan but can you ellaborate if Below Prof. means below 60% and if moderate prof. is between 65% & 75% ? Can you give the exact percentages these students got ?
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Ivan Samuel Santana Project Management Trainer & Consultant| ITPROIECTUS Las Palmas, Spain, Spain
PMI defines the levels of “proficiency” as follows, but students only obtain that data (not %):

Proficient - indicates performance is above the average level of knowledge in this domain. Moderately Proficient - indicates performance that is at the average level of knowledge in this domain.
Below Proficient - indicates performance is below the average level of knowledge in this domain.
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Jan 23, 2016 2:19 PM
Rami Kaibni
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If there are only 3 levels of proficiency and the student got moderate in all 4 except one then this is strange unless he got low moderate so when the overall was calculated, it did not give him the pass grade but that's only my interpretation.
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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Jan 23, 2016 2:12 PM
Replying to Ivan Samuel Santana
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PMI defines the levels of “proficiency” as follows, but students only obtain that data (not %):

Proficient - indicates performance is above the average level of knowledge in this domain. Moderately Proficient - indicates performance that is at the average level of knowledge in this domain.
Below Proficient - indicates performance is below the average level of knowledge in this domain.
If there are only 3 levels of proficiency and the student got moderate in all 4 except one then this is strange unless he got low moderate so when the overall was calculated, it did not give him the pass grade but that's only my interpretation.
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Suhail Iqbal Suhail Iqbal PMIATP CIPM FAAPM MPM MQM CLC CPRM SCT AEC SDC SMC SPOC PRINCE2 MCT| PM Training School Rawalpindi, Punjab, Pakistan
In psychometric testing, pass percentage is not revealed. It is rather a percentile based testing in which percentile is established by the number of people appearing in the exam. For example if you want to pick top 20 students only from an exam taken by 100 students, whomsoever gets top 20 positions would be declared successful and remaining all will fail. No matter the 20th person passes it at 30% or 90%, anyone below that percentage would NOT pass. That means it is an open competition and nobody knows on what percent will they be able to clear the PMP exam. If there are many people appearing in exam, there is a high likelihood that pass percentage would go very high, maybe like 95% and even if you got 89% marks, you will still be declared as fail.

Now coming to proficiency levels of PMP Exam, it is a very generic indication of how well you have performed in any of the domains. You should be able to score Moderately Proficient in all domains if you want to be sure to PASS. What we have seen is that sometimes people Moderately Proficient on only 3 domains are declared PASS while sometimes someone with Moderate Proficiency in 4 still fails, though very seldom.

Initiation and Closing Domains carry a bit lower weightage and even if you fail both of them and still able to score well in other three domains, you CAN pass with Moderate Proficiency in Planning, Execution, Monitoring and Control. Generally Moderately Proficient in 4 domains mean you will pass, but if you passed marginally in any of the three important domains with high weightage, then initiation and closing may not help you.

I am not saying we do selective study or give more importance to one domain and not to the others, but middle three domains are weighted much more than the first and last domains. I would suggest you prepare so well that you secure at least Moderate Proficiency in 4 if not all 5 domains. In layman language target for 85% of overall pass score, and that would most probably translate into the right percentile. Another precaution, never appear for PMP exam when it is changing or most of the people are rushing to take exam, choose a moderate period when everything is well-established and in order. Take as much practice exams as you can on last three days before exam and have a very good night's rest before the exam, always try to sit in the exam in the morning when you are fresh and not tired.
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2 replies by Markus Kopko and Rami Kaibni
Jan 23, 2016 4:18 PM
Rami Kaibni
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This is very interesting Suhail ... Thanks for shedding a light on this which triggered a concern from my side but I will address it privately.
Jan 25, 2016 3:45 AM
Markus Kopko
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Hello Shuail,

very interestig explaination, myan thx for that.
May i ask for a reference where the aspect with the different weightage for the 5 domains is documented; unfortantly can't find somthing about yet, that was really a great help! Thx in advance.

And additionally i would like to add another aspect to discussion. I have read somewhere that the pass or failed scoring is also depending on the difficultness of the individual exam; is that correct?

That would mean that someone with 3 MP and 2 BP could have passed cause he had a very difficult exam and someone with even 4 MP and 1BP could have failed, cause he has catched a more easy exam ... what also could explain the strange situation we are looking at here.

Thank you very much for your response!

Regards,

Markus
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Ivan Samuel Santana Project Management Trainer & Consultant| ITPROIECTUS Las Palmas, Spain, Spain
Thanks Suhail, I really appreciate your comments.
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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Jan 23, 2016 3:44 PM
Replying to Suhail Iqbal
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In psychometric testing, pass percentage is not revealed. It is rather a percentile based testing in which percentile is established by the number of people appearing in the exam. For example if you want to pick top 20 students only from an exam taken by 100 students, whomsoever gets top 20 positions would be declared successful and remaining all will fail. No matter the 20th person passes it at 30% or 90%, anyone below that percentage would NOT pass. That means it is an open competition and nobody knows on what percent will they be able to clear the PMP exam. If there are many people appearing in exam, there is a high likelihood that pass percentage would go very high, maybe like 95% and even if you got 89% marks, you will still be declared as fail.

Now coming to proficiency levels of PMP Exam, it is a very generic indication of how well you have performed in any of the domains. You should be able to score Moderately Proficient in all domains if you want to be sure to PASS. What we have seen is that sometimes people Moderately Proficient on only 3 domains are declared PASS while sometimes someone with Moderate Proficiency in 4 still fails, though very seldom.

Initiation and Closing Domains carry a bit lower weightage and even if you fail both of them and still able to score well in other three domains, you CAN pass with Moderate Proficiency in Planning, Execution, Monitoring and Control. Generally Moderately Proficient in 4 domains mean you will pass, but if you passed marginally in any of the three important domains with high weightage, then initiation and closing may not help you.

I am not saying we do selective study or give more importance to one domain and not to the others, but middle three domains are weighted much more than the first and last domains. I would suggest you prepare so well that you secure at least Moderate Proficiency in 4 if not all 5 domains. In layman language target for 85% of overall pass score, and that would most probably translate into the right percentile. Another precaution, never appear for PMP exam when it is changing or most of the people are rushing to take exam, choose a moderate period when everything is well-established and in order. Take as much practice exams as you can on last three days before exam and have a very good night's rest before the exam, always try to sit in the exam in the morning when you are fresh and not tired.
This is very interesting Suhail ... Thanks for shedding a light on this which triggered a concern from my side but I will address it privately.
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