Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Feb 21, 2016 5:06 AM
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Rami I agree with you, yet depending on the online deliver method, you can reach an in class experience but of course this depends on your budget and time.
Online is more reliable now than before due to the tech advancement
I never tried online courses before but you have a point. I usually prefer in class courses. Saving Changes...
Ahmed Fouad SedkySenior Claims Consultant | Systech CanadaToronto, Ontario, Canada
Feb 21, 2016 5:36 PM
Replying to Amrita Joshi
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Thanks Ahmed
Amrita,
I am doing my masters with a Scottish University, Robert Gordon University. Also Liverpool is known for Online Masters. Old Dominion in Norfolk, VA have online live classes.
So you can go with what suits your schedule.
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Feb 23, 2016 6:17 AM
Amrita Joshi
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Thanks Ahmed. Will research more on these courses.
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Markus KopkoAI Enabler for Project & Program Mgmt | Founder PMotion.ai / The PM
AI Coach| PMotion.aiHamburg, Hamburg, Germany
Hello,
my opinion is, doing a master/doctor in PM whitout having any practice/experience is somekind of useless.
The studying is highly theoretical and of course you could learn all the theories and all the content, but if you than hit the real world it will hit you like a wall.
Not without a reason PMP is only allowed for peaple who can proove thousands of hours of experience in tha various PM domains.
If you looking for an online course doing PMP preparation i would recommend this one:
but I don't have attended it yet. Anyway I think that these courses can give you a basic and theorical knowledge but if you want to deepen the subject I think that is more useful to take a Master in campus or enroll in a PMI Chapter that give you the opportunity to share practical knowledge as someone has suggested in another thread. Saving Changes...
Amrita JoshiTechnical Project Manager| CapgeminiEdinburgh, United Kingdom
Thanks Markus and Paolo for sharing your opinions. Much appreciated. Saving Changes...
Amrita JoshiTechnical Project Manager| CapgeminiEdinburgh, United Kingdom
Feb 22, 2016 12:39 AM
Replying to Ahmed Fouad Sedky
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Amrita,
I am doing my masters with a Scottish University, Robert Gordon University. Also Liverpool is known for Online Masters. Old Dominion in Norfolk, VA have online live classes.
So you can go with what suits your schedule.
Thanks Ahmed. Will research more on these courses. Saving Changes...
Tania MelnyczukDirector: Programme Design| ProjectManagement.co.zaCape Town, South Africa
None of the project managers who have impressed me with their real-world ability to manage projects had a shipload of certifications and degrees in Project Management. Although several were PMPs, they were like, "yeah, whatever" about their PMP certification. I met some guys at the Theory of Constraints ICO Conference last year who had a good grip on Critical Chain Project Management, and were applying it effectively in their work. That, and the Cynefin framework, would be what I would want to focus on in more depth if I were going to focus on further structured Project Management study now myself.
I have a PRINCE2 Practitioner certification, but Practitioner is a misnomer. It's all theory, you don't have to do anything in practice to be called a Practitioner, you just have to pass an exam. (I personally don't even bother to mention my certificates on my profile.) I do like various aspects of PRINCE2 (such as the rationale behind the authority structure), but it's not really all that meaningful to have this certificate if you are not going to work in an environment where PRINCE2 has been implemented already. And even then, I believe one could pick it up quickly by stydying it while you're on the job. (Unless, of course, they expect you to already have the certificate before you get the job.)
Some of the areas which I often find are missing in people's learning are actually not effectively covered by most Project Management courses. They include areas such as business English and report-writing, as well as training in key aspects of psychology, and strategy. What's missing is often not just the subject matter, but the experiential learning that is needed to acquire many of the necessary skills in a contextual way. Critical Thinking, Systems Thinking and Contextual Thinking are not effectively learned through scenarios, simulations, and textbook exercises. There needs to be some structure to the training, but it's during mentoring and coaching in real-world situations where you actually have to take risks and be held accountable for your decisions, that's where the actual learning takes place. Saving Changes...
Khai Ng.IT PMO | IT Project Manager| TTGROUPHanoi, Viet Nam
You can take any courses, offline or online. The result will much depend on your attitude. From my point of view, the difference between university and PMP certificate is that with PMP you must commit to continuously work in project management field and update your knowledge to be able to keep your certificate, otherwise, you will lose it. Another reason that urges you to have PMP certificate may be your country, company, partners, even your boss... could require project manager must be a PMP holder to be authorized to manage project. Saving Changes...
Really your thread triggering a live debate and invaluable contributions on the right path for certifications and the best way for making the difference in the real world of project management.
In my considerations a certifications should be taken with whatever is affordable for anyone as per his constrains of timing, budgets, accessibility,...etc.; SO GENERALIZATION CAN NOT FIT HERE.
On the other hand I totally agree with Tania in her thoughts to conclude with a real-world encountering situations and wide exposures to opportunities and threats under the pressures of risks , time limits and expectations management the notable experience will be build up and sharply enriched. Saving Changes...
I personally would do both the PMP and Masters in Project Management but in campus, not online. Masters of Project management online is not useful at all as when talen in campus, the interaction between like-minded colleagues is what gives this program value and benefit.
Hi Rami,
I did my Project Management Certificate through University of British Columbia a decade ago. They had an online and classroom version. I chose the online version and can say they found ways for extensive collaboration and sharing of ideas through forums and other tools. It was a highly valuable course, though done online, for me.
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